[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Mohan.C Well guys, Vivekananda's Master it is said "experienced" god. After that particular incident he would always be happy. in a kind of trance. He offered puja to himself !! it is all in the power of meditation. Always he used to meditate on the picture of god Durga. But then once he met a sage who told him to meditate on nothing. This was trouble. It is said all efforts of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa to concentrate on nothingness went in vain. As always he had the picture of the goddess blocking his view. Finally he succeeded and he was never the same. I don't understand this much so I am going to ask one of the swamiji about it. I know him personally and I am sure i will return with interesting answers.

I will await your answer,am interested in the reply,when I was
in your country last month, I could have seen the swamiji myself,it is not that
far from Goa.Oh well,maybe next year!

regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Mohan.C Even today I don't understand why don't people go for physics for answers. Who am I? simple, I am enegy with thought.

To fine The answer,just look within,
the "medium" is the mind,you do not need a physics advisor!

kind regards michael.

[socratus]

Russia. Podmoscowye.

Early in the morning, I went to some village.
Around me, there were forests and in front of me, there was a ravine.
I was delighted with the surrounding me silence and beauty.
Suddenly there came a vibration wave, captured the whole brain
and I saw that in front of me a noisy broad and quick river
(where ravine was) flew.
Far off there was a forest. Ancient people existed from the forest and
hurried to river. To the right three people stood.
Two of them supported a wounded man. And who was on the left - was me:
big and strong. The skin of some animal covered my body.
With one hand, I supported the wounded man and in the other, I hold a spear.
The vision was distinct and clear.
Then vibrations and vision disappeared.
Amazingly, I looked at the dry ravine and still heard the noise of the river.
Once, in my past life I was a man from the wild tribe.

Turkey.
Early morning. On a steep mountain, straight on, I climbed up to antique town Pergamum.
The clouds flew under me and they closed and opened the modern downtown.
From one side, the sun lighted up beautiful antique town
and from the other side shadows of the clouds flying along the downtown.
Beautiful.
I saw white stoned destroyed temple of Zeus. I entered and stood still.
Suddenly there came a vibration wave and captured the whole brain.
It took me and threw on the marble floor, and I began to cry,
and was in hysterics:
"Oh, Pergamum, oh, Pergamum, what they have done to you!"
Far in consciousness, I tried to collect myself and said to myself:
"Stand up! You are not crazy." I rose and wondered what had happened.
Again there came a vibration wave and threw me on the floor.
Again, I cried and was in hysterics. I rose with tears and it stroke me:
"Once I was the main priest of the temple of Zeus and I liked this town and this temple."

Tibet. Lhasa.
In the early cold morning, I hurried to some monastery.
Easy Chinese sport slippers did not protect feet from shrill cold of the ground.
And cold burnt feet as hot stones.
I was walking amazingly. Suddenly vibration waves appeared
and captured my brain. I saw myself in the national Tibetan clothes.
I hurried somewhere, and went under some angle to meet myself.
We nearly run each other, I became afraid and vision disappeared.
The vision was short, but long enough for me to understood
that once, in my past life, I was inhabitant of Tibet.
* * *
These facts from my life, certainly, are not the proof from the scientific point of view.
And it is correct.
These facts are true only for me.
These and other religious experiences have helped me
to understand sense of the formulas and laws of physics.
But you see not only I have gone through such facts.
There are a lot of such people. Such facts are fixed in many books.
Tribes and the ancient peoples, in the past and in the present,
trusted and trust in immortality of soul, in its ability to incarnation.
But we will take other situation.
The scientists write about " virtual particles and virtual transformations ".
Nobody knows, what a "virtual particle " and " virtual transformations " are.
I shall remind what Feynman wrote:
"We are obliged to imagine, that our system hardly has moved,
even if it really did not move and was not so capable to move.
We use small imagined movement to apply a principle of energy conservation."
Such explanation is not convincing.
Comparing these two situations, we can understand,
that there are sufficient bases to be surprised.
Socratus.

[Mohan.C]

Originally Posted by socratus Russia. Podmoscowye. Early in the morning, I went to some village. Around me, there were forests and in front of me, there was a ravine. I was delighted with the surrounding me silence and beauty. Suddenly there came a vibration wave, captured the whole brain and I saw that in front of me a noisy broad and quick river (where ravine was) flew. Far off there was a forest. Ancient people existed from the forest and hurried to river. To the right three people stood. Two of them supported a wounded man. And who was on the left - was me: big and strong. The skin of some animal covered my body. With one hand, I supported the wounded man and in the other, I hold a spear. The vision was distinct and clear. Then vibrations and vision disappeared. Amazingly, I looked at the dry ravine and still heard the noise of the river. Once, in my past life I was a man from the wild tribe. Turkey. Early morning. On a steep mountain, straight on, I climbed up to antique town Pergamum. The clouds flew under me and they closed and opened the modern downtown. From one side, the sun lighted up beautiful antique town and from the other side shadows of the clouds flying along the downtown. Beautiful. I saw white stoned destroyed temple of Zeus. I entered and stood still. Suddenly there came a vibration wave and captured the whole brain. It took me and threw on the marble floor, and I began to cry, and was in hysterics: "Oh, Pergamum, oh, Pergamum, what they have done to you!" Far in consciousness, I tried to collect myself and said to myself: "Stand up! You are not crazy." I rose and wondered what had happened. Again there came a vibration wave and threw me on the floor. Again, I cried and was in hysterics. I rose with tears and it stroke me: "Once I was the main priest of the temple of Zeus and I liked this town and this temple." Tibet. Lhasa. In the early cold morning, I hurried to some monastery. Easy Chinese sport slippers did not protect feet from shrill cold of the ground. And cold burnt feet as hot stones. I was walking amazingly. Suddenly vibration waves appeared and captured my brain. I saw myself in the national Tibetan clothes. I hurried somewhere, and went under some angle to meet myself. We nearly run each other, I became afraid and vision disappeared. The vision was short, but long enough for me to understood that once, in my past life, I was inhabitant of Tibet. * * * These facts from my life, certainly, are not the proof from the scientific point of view. And it is correct. These facts are true only for me. These and other religious experiences have helped me to understand sense of the formulas and laws of physics. But you see not only I have gone through such facts. There are a lot of such people. Such facts are fixed in many books. Tribes and the ancient peoples, in the past and in the present, trusted and trust in immortality of soul, in its ability to incarnation. But we will take other situation. The scientists write about " virtual particles and virtual transformations ". Nobody knows, what a "virtual particle " and " virtual transformations " are. I shall remind what Feynman wrote: "We are obliged to imagine, that our system hardly has moved, even if it really did not move and was not so capable to move. We use small imagined movement to apply a principle of energy conservation." Such explanation is not convincing. Comparing these two situations, we can understand, that there are sufficient bases to be surprised. Socratus.

What are these vibration waves you are talking about. Are these visions or just dreams.