[socratus]

My personal experience. Who am I ?

According to advice of parapsychologist Israel Levinshtein, I began to study religious practice-meditation. And once, involuntary, I felt that vibration wave came on my brain. This wave caused vibrations of all neutrons of my brain. They started vibrating in the same phase, with the same frequency that the last wave. All the neutrons came to homogeneous "vacuum" state. And then I saw "myself", my spiritual essence. I gazed and saw clean silver circle. And I initially understood that this circle was my true "I".

And this true "I" is eternal, unwounded, passionless, spiritual, conscious, evolutionary. It was so exactly, so clear, so real that then, recollecting and telling someone about it, I told him that it was "more real than I was talking to you".

Most of all amazed me that my true "I" is passionless. Because I am an emotional person. How is that that I am passionless? And I somehow mentally asked: And what about love?" and mentally received the answer: "Way".

When the vision of true "I" disappeared, the first thought came. And this thought drove on all the neutrons of the brain, having programmed them with one question: "how to explain it scientifically?" And I became a slave of this question. All my time was devoted to the search of the answer to this question.

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Socratus.

[zeroca]

Originally Posted by socratus Who am I ?

It was really coincidence!
I intended to publish this poetry on another thread, it’s Jalal ad-din Rumi’s (great Persian poet of 12-th century) poetry; when just finished translating from Georgian, read your thread:
The poetry can be called tell me who am I, the first part of poetry is about god, complete nothingness, the second part - about the way for person to seek it (about meditation, but only of transcendental sort, of transcendental kind, and finally - joining to eternity), i.e. to drink - means to meditate, Adam and Eva, I think, is figurative meaning of plus and minus generally, “Shams Tabriz” - means the sun of Tabriz (Tabriz was the historical place in Iran) and Shams Tabriz was mendicant dervish, who taught the poet how to meditate and how to fall into trance, and almost all his poetry are written down by his pupils, who were listening to poet, who being in trance conveyed them.
I couldn’t find where Bolghar’s valley was (i.e. to which hysterical place the poet was referring to, so left it as it was). The main idea and rhythm is preserved…

Enjoy reading, if it’s worth…

Translation from Persian into Georgian
by
Mr. Magali Todua,
from Georgian into English by me


Do thrust in heaven? Eh my friend kind,
Who am I? Please solve confusing mine…
I’m not Muslim with heart my trusting,
Nor on Christians’ trip I’m residing,
I am not eastern, I do remember,
And I’m not Western, heaven me sain!
Nor marine navel is my origin,
Nor this dry land - hilly terrain,
Nor live in water, nor based on soil,
Nor sparkle in fire, nor sound in gale,
In whatever thing of any forming,
Of whatever sort, whatever kind,
I did not come from Indians’ mountains,
And never passed the bolghars’ valley,
I’m not Chinese, nor from Chorasan,
And I’m not dweller Iraqi’s sidings,
Nor of that Eden’s hope is feeding me,
Nor of the Hades’ ringing scaring,
I am not Adam, and I’m not Eva,
Nor their heaven for me is charming.
Abode of mine? It is nowhere,
And everywhere my empire is,
Nor simple sign is portraying me,
But eternity for me shining…
-That duality I left forever,
Which enforced my daily carving,
I’m seeking single, I’m searching unique,
And my speech only for it is starving.
It is the first and it is the final,
It is the supreme defensive barring,
Only was found worth among others,
And harp my, only for it is prizing.
Yes, I’m not trusting in that paradise,
And this world for me – really trifling,
Drunken with caress I joined beggars,
So far I favor this way of liking;
Love inspired me with balmy breathing,
Dew-drops heavenly over me tiling,
And I prefer to live with sympathy,
Than be piled up without loving,
Strange kind of nestling I turned into,
Within egg – split-less I’m flying, tired
Why are thoroughly in slush we mired,
I, my family my tribe – entire?

- Shams Tabriz! I am drunken heavily,
I drank as though I were whale,
So I’ll begin to linger about,
In order, to fall somewhere faint...

[socratus]

Quantum of Light and Life.

Question.

What inhale Life in the formulas and in the equations ?

What must be present in a body to make it alive ?

The answer.

Soul. Quantum of Light.

[socratus]

The doctrine of a personal God could never be refuted by science.

[socratus]

"What is your flash, Khayyam?

Tent where for overnight's stop,

As a wandering shah, the spirit did a stop".

/ Omar al-Khayyam. /

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by socratus The doctrine of a personal God could never be refuted by science.

Quite right,how could they!
kind regrds michael.

[socratus]

"The greatest trouble in the world is the idea of a personal God!"

Why?

Because only the Quantum of light is a privileged particle.

[socratus]

"Life is weightless, metaphysical" (R, Buckminster Fuller)........
By Rybo6 Alias Os_jbug

............void of which,
Unconscious night dreams,
And conscious day dreams,
Rush in to fill the vacumn

The void as a vacumn,
Mother Natures does not allow.
Rushing in, she fills the abhorrent void,
With matter of fact.

Conscious awareness is always off center,
Oscillating highs and lows,
Pulsating, ebbing and flowing,
Of our physical bio-emotional reality,
The trip, the journey, the living.

Consciously we attempt,
To reside or orbit around,
Passing near and hopefully through,
Nearly neutral judgement,
And absolute truth.

Mind or no-mind,
Beyond meterablity and detection,
Pure as zero,
Neutrally centered,
Equilibrious stillpoint,
An untainted exactitude.

Hippiedom, Buddhayamadom, Zendom, Christdom, Allahdom,
And all semi-quasi "non-places" of non-attainment.

Photo-chemically induced emotions,
Heartfelt waves move and emanate from us,
As we resonate with others fields
Of modulating angles and frequency.

The void is filled with dreams,
Illuminating as images of radiation
And narrow bands of light,
Both by day and by night.

Sleep away the vibrations of our thoughts,
So we may recognize the beauty of rebirth,
An reshaping of the souls spirit,
And rest, so that we may rise again.

[Mohan.C]

Even today I don't understand why don't people go for physics for answers.

Who am I?
simple, I am enegy with thought.

[socratus]

Who am I?

I am energy with thought.

/ Mohan. C./

Yes! It is correct.

But there are two energy with thought:

1. computer,s thought ( more or less logical )

2. instinct,s thought (intuition , unconsciousness)

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Descartes said: "I think, therefore I am"

But when Zen/Tibetan Buddhist monks, trained in meditation,

begin conscious awareness, the "I think not, therefore I am"

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The theory of knowledge.

The man acts: 1) at usual under logic program,

2) sometimes on intuition (unconsciousness).

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Brain of a man approximately consists of sixteen milliards neurons.

All of them form the system that manages human body.

That is why it is of no wonder that with the work of all the

sixteen milliards neutrons of brain, a man cannot catch a single impulse of

Electron, Quantum of light, his God:

( mass of electron is equal 10^-31 kg, charge of electron is equal 10^-19 k)