[zeroca]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Merab my friend I am most keenly interested in your active zero thoughts,can you share them withus on another post,or privately via pm if you prefer. itend to agree with the idea you present here. kind regards michael.

This is only brief and indirect way of analysis of the system:

The system "Active zero" is a transcendental meditation, if the term-

"Meditation" is interpreted as any process, which exists in the three dimensional space during the time

(I.e. every process, phenomenon, or form of energy presents one of the endless variety of meditation)
and the term-

"Transcendental"-as existent beyond the "bounds",

So transcendental meditation could be interpreted as original way of connection, association (continuing during the time) of something existing to not existing.

Is taken for granted that I will not reveal the techniques how to do it…

To illustrate the point let us imagine the universe in the form of the room (gravitation of the earth is ignored), that's full of small balls (the room-the universe, small balls-bodies, having mass). The small balls differ from each other in mass, solidity, proportions and so forth, and all of them make sort of regular movement, and each of them has its trajectory and kinetic energy. Let's imagine, that all of them are united with one another by the thread (each of them to adjacent one and so on. . .),

Exactly all bodies are connected with each other by "invisible thread", as they are separate parts of a single whole.

Each small ball affects next one, but doesn't affect or affects very little on an infinitely distant small ball. They seem to be thrown about in the room without control (all bodies in three-dimensional space of universe), but in case of fastening of one of them to the ceiling, i.e. to the immovable basis, the movement of every rest small balls (that's to say, without exception, even indefinitely distant ones) will be conditioned by fastened small ball. Their kinetics will change to harmony (i.e. each body will start to move with a minimal loss of energy like a drop of water, that "tries" to take a rounded shape during free fall) and if the fastening of a small ball ("fastening" of the whole universe through the one body) is continuing during the time, every rest small balls will strive to take up its natural place i.e. ultimately will move with the speed and trajectory, that will be the most suitable for their parameters (mass, capacity, consistence and so on. . .). One can compare the above with electrolyte: until the system isn't turned on, all ions move sporadically, but after its turning on each ion "knows where to go" according to its charge, and at a speed, succession and trajectory in accordance with their other parameters.
Immovable basis is nothing. Any of bodies can be the "fastened small ball", only it should be connected (fastened) with an immovable basis (to nothing). (I repeat, I do not explain here how to do it).

The main benefit of the system "Active zero:"

If in the universe any kind of unnatural associations (unions) are accumulated, after turning on of "Active zero" these unions will be destroyed, as their components will "try" to take up their natural place in the universe, and the natural destroyed systems-be recreated. That means complete restoration, absolute recovery of thorough global balance in case of operating of the system protractedly.

Regards,
Merab.

[mkirkpatrick]

Merab,profound thanks for sharing this,I to have been involved in meditation,and
understand the transcendent state that one can enter.

I will study your post further,is there any other comments you would care to add?

kindest regards michael.

[Guille]

I don't believe in these sort of metaphysical things, but still I know that one can get to connect with reality in a different way from normal perception. Just by conception, one can sort of abstract from oneself and be in a state of pure analogy, sort of being only in the thread described by Zeroca, and being only part of the connection of everything. As E.M. Cioran wrote, 'You cannot understand meditation if you do not learn to listen to the silence.', giving with that sentence a lesson to those who do not follow the rule that you must say only what is better than silence, and the fact that you are slave of your words and master of your silence.

[zeroca]

Dear friends,
Michael, Guille!

I didn’t share with you anything except for some indirect hints about the essence of the system, because I’d like to preserve the privilege of practicing it (and techniques of setting it up) only for me.
I don’t belong to sort of people, who aren’t critical to themselves, I always think over many times before making decisions, but as for “Active zero” I thought it over thousand times, when I was in great need and have 10 year big experience of its practicing, and I’m ready to use this system against cataclysms and national disasters. I’m sure I’ll find partner (I don’t mean at this forum), but if not, I’ll resume its operation by myself after preparing the steady material basis for it. I’m on this way… I think it will take less then decade. Welfare of my family is growing everyday – step by step. I’m not from kind of men, who throws his word to the wind…
But if I find serious partner (I mean world scale organization studying global changes in the first place and material support in the second place), I will do my best to prove that “Active zero” is brilliant mechanism, but up to now not any organization has taken me seriously (and maybe that’s natural).
For some reason world scale organizations prefer not to make suspicious chip experiments but prefer millions of people be killed by hurricane. What can we do? If I were in their places I would do the same – I also would consider this suspicious offer tricky (obscure system based on suspicious metaphysical basis), but is it so or not is 50-50%…
So everything is fair; everybody can call me when great disasters is in progress, but better beforehand…

Best regards,
zeroca.

[RascalPuff]

Dear Zeroca:
Are you familiar with Lao Tzu's Butterfly theory, or Prufrock's 'eternal question'?

[zeroca]

Dear RascalPuff!

I’m not. I’m familiar only with Dao de Czin (translation into Georgian) and don’t know how successfully it’s done. Never compared it to other translations.

zeroca.

[RascalPuff]

Dear Zeroca:
Your knowledge of subjected translations is indeed impressive.
To make a longer story shorter, Lao Tzu's Butterfly theory and Prufrock's Eternal Question are - each in their own way - personal, individual - correct - realizations that every single event in the universe, no matter how small or seemingly insignificant, projects upon the universe and influences permanent changes and courses of events that would have unfolded differently had not the smallest of events occurred.

Regards and thank you.

- RP

[MJA]

Dear Zeroca,

I thought you might like something I wrote called Meditation.

Meditation

Walk into a forest
Let your mind
Become a tree,
When you are one
Meditation is achieved.
Oneness in nature
The single truth.

Thanks,
MJA

[RascalPuff]

Dear Zeroca:
J. Alfred Prufrock assumed a lotus position and meditated on not moving, for fear he would change the universe. But even in his breathing, metabolism and manifestation in space he was projecting indelible changes. Just as surely as MJA's poetey, this thread, and all who contribute to any thread, whether they're at their computer keyboards or not. Prufrock construed this more as a dilemma of responsibility rather than the inevitability that it is...

[zeroca]

Dear friends!

As I mentioned in the first post of this thread, the term - "Meditation" in my case should be interpreted as any process, which exists in the three dimensional space during the time,
(i.e.
Driving of vehicle we can call meditation of driving,
Sleeping – as meditation of sleeping,
Playing football – as meditation of playing),
But the term - "Transcendental"-as existent beyond the "bounds",
So transcendental meditation could be interpreted as original way of connection, association (continuing during the time) of something existing to not existing.
Briefly I’d like to say that transcendental meditation is only one kind of processes (i.e. event within time) that takes place within universe. Like any other kind of processes conducted by human, it changes environment somehow, but in direction of restoration of balance and harmony globally…