PROVING Souls

[AntonioLao]

please tell me how you can mathematically prove that 7+7=2

this can be proven by modular arithmetic. please see the weblink below

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ModularArithmetic.html

[PROFET]

Guille,

Everyone Ive Met In This Webpage Describes God As A Possible Theory That Could Complete The Theory, You Say I Am An Extremist,
Look At Youself, And Please, Give Me The Right To Preserve My Believes

Centring On The Theme, About Souls, There Are Some Things We Maybe Shouldnt Know I Just Have No Answer To This, Normally I Like To Proove Myself With Scientific Metods, Now I Can Just Say,

Have Faith

Alex

[Guille]

Guille,

Everyone Ive Met In This Webpage Describes God As A Possible Theory That Could Complete The Theory, You Say I Am An Extremist,
Look At Youself, And Please, Give Me The Right To Preserve My Believes

Centring On The Theme, About Souls, There Are Some Things We Maybe Shouldnt Know I Just Have No Answer To This, Normally I Like To Proove Myself With Scientific Metods, Now I Can Just Say,

Have Faith

Alex

Sorry but you ARE an extremist. Don't deny it to yourself. I was a very strong extremist during the last year, maybe for the last two, because I'm sick of all this relgious world. How would YOU feel in a world where, let's say, 90% of the people where atheist? Not good. Don't reply to me that you wouldn't care, because you would. You would become more extremist, any kind of extremism occurs when there is critical events. Fascism and comunism in politics, prove that. I am, as all atheist, in a critical position. My father, my mother, my brother, my sister, my cousins, my uncles, my grand-parents, my great-grand parents, probably all if not nearlly all of my ancestors, of predecesors, most in my school, in my street, in my zone, in my work in the future, of my friends, wherever and whenver I go and are, they mayority of people will be religious, thus, believe in god.

Why do you think that at the end of the second world war the countries didn't jsut destroy all of whast was left for germany? dissolve it, and devide it? true, they devide in two, but they could have jsut say this for france, this for england, this for holland, this for rusia, could they? yes. But they didn't because germany was an extreemely poor country, it was a critical state, so they could do nothing but vote to hitler, vote to extremism.

I'm sort of equal state. I know, ok, I have what I need, I can eat. But it is critical, moderate critical. So, it shoudl be accepted that I'm extremist.

But religious people? no, not them. And even less YOU! because you are religious, and form the most expanded one, so you have no reason to be extremist.

And anyway, by my own ethics, which is my guide in life, and believe me, I have considered it in a proper way, but I don't agree that there is any way that religious people should be extremist, it's not justified. I don't say mine is, or hitler was, but just they should be accepted. Now, by YOUR ethics, which is the bible, you should accept my extremism and forgive me, for being atheist, etz....So you have no point there.

Now, see, you say you try not to be extremist, but you are extremist by the single trhing of reducing everything to having faith. I know. I have discussed with you and others, a lot. I know that it's all about faith. But I am philosopher. I want to discuss in a philosophical manner, the religious themes. Philosophy of theology, it's called. Now, philosophy is believed tpo be very liberal and have no order etz, but this is because scientists have made people think this. Philosophy is very strict. Theories are not accepted if they don't pass the analize. They must be rational, and have empirical value. They must not end in relativistic conclusions. They need logic. It's the 3C's: Clarity, Coherence and Credibilidity.

I do like discussing with you, please, do it, I enjoy it.

What backgroudn do you have to defend souls' existence?

[mkirkpatrick]

Matter is the vehicle for the manifestation of soul on this plane of existance,and soul is the vehicle on a higher plane for the manifestation of spirit,and these three are a trinity synthesised by life,which pervades them all.Through the use of matter the soul unfolds and finds its climax in the soul of man.The soul is as yet an unknown quantity.It has no real place in the theories of the academic
and scientific investigators.It is unproven and regarded by even the more open-
minded of the academicians as a possible hypothesis,but lacking demonstration.
It is not accepted as a fact in the consciousness of the race.Only two groups of
people accept is a fact,one is the gullible,undeveloped,childlike person who,brought up on a scripture of the world,and being religiously inclined,accepts
the postulates of religion-such as the soul,God,and immortality-without questioning.The other is a small but steadily growing band of knowers of God,and of reality,who know the soul to be a fact in their own experience but are unable to prove its existance satisfactorily to man who admits only that which the conctete mind can grasp,analyse,criticise,and test.
The soul is neither spirit nor matter but is the relation between them.The soul is the mediator between this duality,it is the middle principle,the link between God and His form.
kind regards michael.

[Tarina]

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Prove it, then. PS: paradox of your paradox: I can prove that when you say you can prove that I can prove anything if I believe in it, is your belief of this proof.

Ha Ha! Sorry, just couldn`t help myself!

[austintorn@aol.com]

What an old thread—and still no proof of the invisible soul.

(S-O-U-L) Spirits Of Unconditional Love? No, but's that a good outlook.

Here is the invisible soul:

See it?

No, for it's not there.

It 'exists' only in the imagination.

[AntonioLao]

Something can be seen if it has all of the eight properties of directional invariance: LTF, LTB, LDF, LDB, RTF, RTB, RDF, and RDB (L-left, T-top, F-front, B-back, D-down, R-right).

[Tarina]

Now about proving souls existence. Right now we can't, but I would like to say that I think we will be able to in the future, perhaps when we are able to travel between dimensions. Of course, I most likely won't be alive anymore-unless such advancements in modern science like growing new organs and such becomes possible. I think it is just one of those questions that the answer really does not matter, it's your own belief system that does matter.

[AntonioLao]

Soul is like a river that flows in the same direction of space-time, say from present to future or present to past or past to future or future to past or go in circle around the now.

[leskey]

Soul is like a river that flows in the same direction of space-time, say from present to future or present to past or past to future or future to past or go in circle around the now.

I like this part of your conjecture, Antonio...that soul is a "...circle around the now." Though, this might better describe the first ripple of vibration that isolates aether from aether.

The soul could be considered an extension of the process of being: the circle of senitence around the now.