[mkirkpatrick]

I would like to propose that all motion is in an absolute sense is unreal and is an
illusion,it only(appears) to exist to us as we are all real-ative to it.I would futher
like to suggest,that if we think through the illusion of motion,we will see just how absurd it is!Because by the nature of movement,the very action itself,implies,that there is somewhere to go to??Now just think about energy
is there really anywhere in the universe where it is absentfrom!To all intents and
purposes energy(mind)is ominipresent,present everwhere!So if that is the case
then motion would not exist,would it.what do you all think?




kind regards michael.

[Guille]

hi Michael,



But if something doesn't have motion, then there is no time, then there are no events, therefore a motionless object, either finite or infinite spatially, doesn't exist.

[michellemfry]

I hate to say this but wouldn't a motionless body technically be a corpse. Until I am a corpse, there is motion to be detectable, thermal properties that can be scanned, etc. Is there an alternate word for illusion that would be more fitting. Perhaps appearance of motionlessness. Illusion conjures up the deluded, or the charmed. We indeed could be charmed, couldn't we, into believing in motion?.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by michellemfry I hate to say this but wouldn't a motionless body technically be a corpse. Until I am a corpse, there is motion to be detectable, thermal properties that can be scanned, etc. Is there an alternate word for illusion that would be more fitting. Perhaps appearance of motionlessness. Illusion conjures up the deluded, or the charmed. We indeed could be charmed, couldn't we, into believing in motion?.

YES. But still no, because, you see: the actual fact that we can be charmed, inpplies that time exists.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by michellemfry I hate to say this but wouldn't a motionless body technically be a corpse. Until I am a corpse, there is motion to be detectable, thermal properties that can be scanned, etc. Is there an alternate word for illusion that would be more fitting. Perhaps appearance of motionlessness. Illusion conjures up the deluded, or the charmed. We indeed could be charmed, couldn't we, into believing in motion?.

A corpse is not motionless Michelle,decay moves rapidly in warm conditions.
Motion implies the need to go from say A to B,butif you are at both of these locations
already,and are ubiquitous it would become absurd to want to move,for where could you
possibly go that you were not all ready present at??


regards michael.