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The implications of Quantum non-locality(Quote Mansfield,1995,pa122.)Non-
locatity or nonseparability is asking us to revise completely our ideas about
objects to remove a pervasive projection we have upon nature.We can no longer consider objects as independently existing entities that can be localized in well defined regions of spacetime.They are interconnected in ways not even conceivable using ideas from classical physics,which is largely a refinement and extrapolation from our normal macroscope sense of functioning.(Unquote)I have used this rather long quote (sorry)because I think that it lends some weight to what I feel to be true,as to the universe is
in the last analysis,a product of mind.Quantum nonlocality does not prove
that "signals" travel faster than light,rather it shows that at a deep level of
"reality" the speed of light as a limiting factor is "Irrelevant" because phenomena are instanteously connected regardless of distance?
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03-08-2006, 01:30 PM

Those would be my words exactly!

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03-08-2006, 02:49 PM

The mind can do anthing you apply it to, go anywhere you think about, and always responds to what ever you decide. When was the last time you got the message access denied in your own mind?


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03-08-2006, 03:11 PM

Non-locality is indeed a modern view of scince. But not quite. It is based on the locality of given points. For example, if we look at a sphere, it has a round shape or curve, but if we approach it enough, we can see it as a plane. In this way, we say that the sphere or any other manifold can be seen as locally euclidian. So, locality makes up non-locallity.
  
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The mind can do anthing you apply it to, go anywhere you think about, and always responds to what ever you decide. When was the last time you got the message access denied in your own mind?
About 15 years ago,when thinking very deeply on a theme/



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Cool non-locality is the very nature of true existence.... - 03-08-2006, 07:49 PM

Michael, I think this is the key (non-locality). To my mind, it is what introduces spirituality into science. Great Thread!


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Harmony,you made a interesting point about non-locality introducing spiritual-
ity into science,and of course,science into spirituality.The two can merge into a greater understanding of our existance.Where is our true home!Where do we truly belong!All these and many more will be answered,when there is a
fuller cognisization of the total interconnectiveness of all manifestation.We
will realise that we are all points of consciousness in an interconnected and
united ocean of mindfulness.no-thing is overlooked,no-thing is forgotten,all
are included,and totally held in the firm embrace of non-localised inclusive-
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Cool quote - 03-14-2006, 09:59 AM

sounds like Mother Theresa "If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten we belong to each other." wise words indeed.


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