[north]

[quote=Guille;18806]Michael,

I think we loook at the outside because it's easier. However, now that science is finding hard to look at the outside, it is starting to look in the inside: the mind (or consciousness) is the only study area shared by all sciences, weather social science or exact science. Our limitations are within, not only without; if we didn't have a mind we would be objects and thus objectives. All objecs in the universe know the truth of the universe, but they don't know for they don't have a mind. It's the paradox. You can have the thing or have the thing for having the thing, but not both.

But can we really know the reality of ourselves? I doubt it, for there is no reality of ourselves.

" can we really know the reality of ourselves " what a load of non-sense. of course we can and do. we can affect things.

" for there is no reality of ourselves " really . okay don't drink any water for a year in any form.

who confused you?

There is only the unlogical and unpractical behaviour of the mind to be studied, and, if properly done (not like until now), we may achieve something.

explain further

[mkirkpatrick]

Thanks north,yes the answers to all possible questions lies within our consciousness,there
is no (outside) we are all within the universal mind and will forever be so.

When we can really realize our "true" identity,then the answers will become "self-reavealing"?



regards michael.

[north]

[quote]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick

Thanks north,yes the answers to all possible questions lies within our consciousness,there
is no (outside) we are all within the universal mind and will forever be so.

michael you mis-understand me , I think , it is the OUTSIDE that is the embodiment of our reality of which we , life is made.

When we can really realize our "true" identity,then the answers will become "self-reavealing"?



regards michael.

perhaps but it depends on how you mean this last statement.

explain further

[mkirkpatrick]

[quote=north;33055]

michael you mis-understand me , I think , it is the OUTSIDE that is the embodiment of our reality of which we , life is made.





perhaps but it depends on how you mean this last statement.

explain further

Prehaps then we do see this differently,I see reality everywhere and that we are within
that reality,I see no outside just total inclusivity and indivisibilty of all into all.We are the visible sign of that absolute reality,expressed in time and space and held in cohesional
balance by the will of all.I suppose you could say that the visible is outer,and the invisible inner,but seems a play on words?

regards michael.

[north]

[quote]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick

agreed

I do see an outside though.

as a place for a life energy to stand , so to speak , manifest and be challenged to exist

not only from within but from the universe without.

agreed

evolution?

regards michael.

not really a play on words but how it is.

[mkirkpatrick]

The final answer to all our questions,lies within us,in truth there is no outside,no out thereness,we are visible beacons of reality made manifest and In-formed (given shape to)
that which is formless.

If we can but realize this simple fact,the rest will follow in an orderly sequence.




regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

"Man know thyself" was written above the portals of learning in ancient Greece,how very true,for when we begin to truly "know" ourselves,we then "see"that indeed we the very
embodiment of reality!The injunction could also state,look within,not without,then you will
find yourself,which will then lead to the realization that we are an eternal being,expressed
as form,and evolving into greater realization of the inclusivity of all apparent "things".




regards michael.

[Profpat]

Hi Michael;

I Agree

I believe it was Socrates who said Wisdom was knowing yourself.

Best to you,

Pat

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Profpat

Hi Michael;

I Agree

I believe it was Socrates who said Wisdom was knowing yourself.

Best to you,

Pat

Thanks Pat,when we really know ourselves,then all the "questions" fall away,we then
"know"?



regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

Reality is embodied within us,we are ambassadors of that which eternally IS,on the inside
of course,on the outside,that which is visible we are but temporal beings who turn to dust
at the end of our physical life.

Inwardly we are eternal and an extension (outpost) of the Absolute ISness projected
into this dimension to fully realize our divine potentuality.To wake up from our long slumber and become reborn into the inner dimension of pulsating reality.



regards michael.