[HappytheStripper]

Okay Harmony Girl .. lets discuss .. and Michael .. and everyone else .. What does it mean to exist .. ??

Well firstly .. look at what Wikipedia has to say about existence .. and also answers.com ..

http://www.answers.com/existence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence .. and then lets discuss this it ..

My initial response would be it's not the fact that you exist but the form of existance and how You perceive it .. ??

http://www.gurusoftware.com/images/GuruNet/Creation.gif

Ashley

[mkirkpatrick]

Great thread starter Ashley.
What does it mean to exist? To whom!?Me,you,or them?
To me I suppose it means that I am alive,and I know that I am alive,and
further I knowthat i will always be alive-eternal!I have the abilty to reflect
on this,meditate on this,and expand my conscious awareness of this!I can
see that I am a part of a much greater whole,and can identify with this
fact.It means that i can see and feel the majesty and beauty of creation
and partake in the joy of living!
There thats enough for now,I will expect a little tick for this Ashley?

regardsmichael.

[HappytheStripper]

Thanks Michael .. Im still thinking about it and havent as yet fuinished posting .. I of course would like to know what others think . ??

I started this thread in response to HG's question .. in the other threads ..

Yup Yup .. hehe *tick tick*

Ashley

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by HappytheStripper

Thanks Michael .. Im still thinking about it and havent as yet fuinished posting .. I of course would like to know what others think . ??

I started this thread in response to HG's question .. in the other threads ..

Yup Yup .. hehe *tick tick*

Ashley

You are most welcome Ashley,but as this is your thread,we,I,expect a little
more of your presence here,know what I mean!


kind regards michael.

[ZenClone]

What is the opposite of existence?
the immediate answer would be "non-existence", but this would be incorrect.
The opposite is anti-existence, just as the opposite of matter is anti-matter.

the fundamental relationship between "existence" and "cognition" -
To doubt is to think, and thought is the only thing in the universe whose existence cannot be denied, because to deny is to think.

When one says that thought exists, it automatically includes saying that one exists because there is no thought that does not contain as one of its elements a subject who thinks.

[harmonygirl]

but to take this out of a human-oriented discussion, do numbers exist?

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl

but to take this out of a human-oriented discussion, do numbers exist?

Yes they most certainly do Harmony,the only number you will ever need
is ONE,thats it,in reality,and in truth there is but one,and its dear cousin
none?All else is just a repeat of the original!No more and No less!Just one!



kind regards michael.

[harmonygirl]

okay, theist thinking aside, if numbers exist, what characterizes numerical existence that also characterizes human existence?

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl

okay, theist thinking aside, if numbers exist, what characterizes numerical existence that also characterizes human existence?

The same number Harmony!One?Numbers do not exist,that is the point Harmony!There is only number,no "s" on the end!There is just One.
And here is the bit that maybe you will not like,or find very difficult to
accept,and that also applies to human being?Notice that there was no "s"
on the end of human being!There is but one,and its cousin none!or 0?

regards michael.

[Mike 5]

Hello

Nomadic existence, is what it means for me currently.

however, I do want to get back into posting here sometimes as I still quest the Big Toe, and will try not to put my foot in my mouth. Or anyone elses. So here goes.

I suggest the following answer - what does it mean to exist?

Ah. Existence, as we know it, has two aspects, and I have recently decided to give these the following labels: Blood, and Thinking.

Blood is material. Thinking is not. Blood is biology, but then again, all inanimate objects pulsate because they rotate, spin, orbit, and then have oscillations within oscillations. But by using the word blood, I am forcing a new thinking into this answer, OK.

Thinking - no need to expand too much on that for now.

The question is, how does the thinking get into the blood, and the body, and the material world.

And how does the blood capture, or consistently inform and react to the thinking.

My answer currently is love, but life is also another word I might use. Then again, I am using concepts in a new and provocative way, to stimulate new thinking. However, all this thinking is very different from the pulsing of your breathing, your heartbeat, and the spinning of atoms and the planet and the paths of comets and so on.

Existence is a temporary co-operation, and all that we can be sure of is that we pass on the baton to the next generation. And the monkeys passed it on to us, the amoeba before that...

Existence beyond what we can perceive or know is irrelevent, it may be there, but unless we can reliably be certain what is beyond our imagination and technical grasp to measure and sense, surely that is esoteric, belief, if we cannot really touch and grasp something?

Existence of mathematics? Maths does not exist for ants, or chimpanzees, only for this species. There is a mathematics of nature and in the universe and the atomic world, but I very much doubt that the simplistic classical traditional approach can map that.

So Existence is for me, at this stage in my theories, blood and thinking taking a ride together.

How they manage that, that is a very interesting topic...

Best wishes to all

Mike 5