[Infinite Consciousness]

MATERIALISM WHAT IT IS ! ! !

My point here is that Materialism (the scientific theory that mind and consciousness are pure physical motions and interactions of matter) does not meet the requirement of what is scientific.

If mind and consciousness are pure physical motions and interactions of matter and we stopped the motions and interactions of matter to determine if matter is the fundamental reality - and to determine if mind and consciousness are pure physical motions and interactions of matter - then according to the theory of materialism there would be no mind and no consciousness to apply a scientific methodology to determine the true or false status of the theory.

Therefore materialism is an absolute that cannot meet the requirements of what is scientific i.e. it can not apply a scientific methodology to determine the true or false status of its theory.

A theory such as materialism is called scientific if it can be tested with scientific methodology to determine its true or false status if it cannot be tested then the theory is not scientific. Materialism as i have just clearly pointed out is a theory that cannot be tested therefore it is not scientific.

Science abhors absolutes and yet materialism is an absolute that is not scientific because it - has not - does not - and cannot - use scientific methodology to determine its true or false status.

ROBERT our fearless leader claims that "The" T.O.E. should be based on science and look for a deep explanation for all things material and "spiritual."

As i have just pointed out materialism is not science and it cannot look for any explanation of things spiritual because according to materialism if we stop the motions and interactions of matter there is no mind and no consciousness and nothing to recognize or experience matter or consciousness or spirit.

MATERIALISM in fact is a non-scientific total denial of consciousness or spirit. It cannot be used as science to to look for a deep explanation or to explore - matter - mind - consciousness - or spirit - because according to materialism as soon as the motion stops there is - no mind - no consciousness - no spirit - and consequently no matter to explore or explain.


MATERIALISM AS SCIENCE IS DEAD DON'T DIE WITH IT ! ! ! ! !

[Lloyd Gillespie]

IC, the way I see it we are trying to define two entirely different absolutes. I only accept one absolute___The absolute one law of the universe is___The infinite thermal space matter motion is one single ground state entity. This is, imo, the universal ground state mechanics explanation, in and of itself___This law of one law is the law of all law. This represents just a simple common sense mechanics of the ground state of the infinite universe. The absolute model I'm representing is just this one law state of___"The Absolute" is infinite thermal space matter motion, further interpreted all the way to the finite singularity___the rest is quantum and relative history. It never stops___motion...

If you would ever take the time to just think through the simple mechanics above, you'd easily see the truth of all worlds. I think it's just too simple to understand. It's always been here, right in front of our eyes___nothing but cold and hot, slow and fast matter motions... It's simple___no complexity what-so-ever. The only absolute is this always and forever changing ground state. The science and physics is absolute state changes___there is no other science and physics___except possibly the unchanging infinite space___then, I don't know about that...

regards,

p.s.
I noticed you got the post title correct......

[mkirkpatrick]

Prehaps science should be renamed the study of reality as we do not understand it!
Is materialism really about just studying material?If that is all it really is,then they should
be called tailors and not scientists?


regards michael.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

MK, you should go back to your meaningless ontological mountain of words, describing nothing but your own ego...

"The unprincipled intellect is a foolish soul. The principled soul is a wise intellect." me

regards,

p.s.
Why don't you try to get along, instead of being so jealous and offensive about science? Science created everything you believe in, including spirit... Try to intuitively prove different___there aren't enough life-times in eternity...

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Prehaps science should be renamed the study of reality as we do not understand it! Is materialism really about just studying material?If that is all it really is,then they should be called tailors and not scientists? regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie MK, you should go back to your meaningless ontological mountain of words, describing nothing but your own ego... "The unprincipled intellect is a foolish soul. The principled soul is a wise intellect." me regards, p.s. Why don't you try to get along, instead of being so jealous and offensive about science? Science created everything you believe in, including spirit... Try to intuitively prove different___there aren't enough life-times in eternity...

Incorrect yet again,remember first law in tailoring,measure your cloth?
Now son repeat that just before you turn in at night,why not make it
your very own mantra!Measure your cloth,got it!


regards michael.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Incorrect yet again,remember first law in tailoring,measure your cloth? Now son repeat that just before you turn in at night,why not make it your very own mantra!Measure your cloth,got it! regards michael.

Your immature ego is shinning brightly again, cup-cake. Good-night... Hey Mk, how long is a piece of string...? You're still going backwards, ahead of yourself, you know... Any more ontological nightmares for us to endure...?

regards,

p.s.
The thread is about materialism as an absolute___it certainly is. Stick to the thread's subject, got it?

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie Your immature ego is shinning brightly again, cup-cake. Good-night... Hey Mk, how long is a piece of string...? You're still going backwards, ahead of yourself, you know... Any more ontological nightmares for us to endure...? regards, p.s. The thread is about materialism as an absolute___it certainly is. Stick to the thread's subject, got it?

Well actually yes I have,you are a materialist are you not.so cut your cloth friend

this is about materialism,you are one,so its about you then okay.

btw i have a thread on onticulality,maybe you would like to visit it?

regards michael.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Well actually yes I have,you are a materialist are you not.so cut your cloth friend this is about materialism,you are one,so its about you then okay. btw i have a thread on onticulality,maybe you would like to visit it? regards michael.

If the panties fit, wear em... Michael, I've read your thread on onticality. You have no knowledge or understanding of onticality, philosophy or physics, or anything else, as far as your own posts report and prove...

[Infinite Consciousness]

[quote=Lloyd Gillespie;22380]IC, the way I see it we are trying to define two entirely different absolutes. I only accept one absolute___The absolute one law of the universe is___The infinite thermal space matter motion is one single ground state entity. This is, imo, the universal ground state mechanics explanation, in and of itself___This law of one law is the law of all law. This represents just a simple common sense mechanics of the ground state of the infinite universe. The absolute model I'm representing is just this one law state of___"The Absolute" is infinite thermal space matter motion, further interpreted all the way to the finite singularity___the rest is quantum and relative history. It never stops___motion...

If you would ever take the time to just think through the simple mechanics above, you'd easily see the truth of all worlds. I think it's just too simple to understand. It's always been here, right in front of our eyes___nothing but cold and hot, slow and fast matter motions... It's simple___no complexity what-so-ever. The only absolute is this always and forever changing ground state. The science and physics is absolute state changes___there is no other science and physics___except possibly the unchanging infinite space___then, I don't know about that...

regards,

Lloyd, this is my thread if i am not allowed on your threads to post my science of consciousness what the hell are you doing on mine posting your repetitive materialist Bs.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

[quote=Infinite Consciousness;25914]

Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie IC, the way I see it we are trying to define two entirely different absolutes. I only accept one absolute___The absolute one law of the universe is___The infinite thermal space matter motion is one single ground state entity. This is, imo, the universal ground state mechanics explanation, in and of itself___This law of one law is the law of all law. This represents just a simple common sense mechanics of the ground state of the infinite universe. The absolute model I'm representing is just this one law state of___"The Absolute" is infinite thermal space matter motion, further interpreted all the way to the finite singularity___the rest is quantum and relative history. It never stops___motion... If you would ever take the time to just think through the simple mechanics above, you'd easily see the truth of all worlds. I think it's just too simple to understand. It's always been here, right in front of our eyes___nothing but cold and hot, slow and fast matter motions... It's simple___no complexity what-so-ever. The only absolute is this always and forever changing ground state. The science and physics is absolute state changes___there is no other science and physics___except possibly the unchanging infinite space___then, I don't know about that... regards, Lloyd, this is my thread if i am not allowed on your threads to post my science of consciousness what the hell are you doing on mine posting your repetitive materialist Bs.

IC, if you address the topic of the thread concerned, and are not insulting, you are welcome to post anywhere... If you state your opinions respectfully and maturely, there is no problem___just drop the insulting accusations, and simply state how you disagree, and if it's a science thread, state your scientific reasons, not your emotional opinions against science or the person...