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Moore's Paradox - 06-08-2005, 09:55 PM

G.E. Moore, a good friend of Bertrand Russell and one of the founders of logical atomisms (the list can be reduced to: Russell, Whitehead, Wittgenstein and Moore). He developoed a paradox that still has no solution (or I don't know about it). When Wittgenstein heard about this paradox he went in the middle of the night to Moore's house and asked him to repeat the speech in which he stated it. If you have a solution to it, or disagree/agree, let me know here.

The paradox is that it is not a paradox to affirm something and followingly state you don't believe it. It only works in first person. Here is an example:
"It is raining but I don't believe it". The only paradoxical thing about this, is that it is not paradoxical although should be one (apparently).

Do you believe something can be affirmed and not believed at the same time?

This shows again the great un-logicity of languages.
  
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G.E. Moore, a good friend of Bertrand Russell and one of the founders of logical atomisms (the list can be reduced to: Russell, Whitehead, Wittgenstein and Moore). He developoed a paradox that still has no solution (or I don't know about it). When Wittgenstein heard about this paradox he went in the middle of the night to Moore's house and asked him to repeat the speech in which he stated it. If you have a solution to it, or disagree/agree, let me know here.

The paradox is that it is not a paradox to affirm something and followingly state you don't believe it. It only works in first person. Here is an example:
"It is raining but I don't believe it". The only paradoxical thing about this, is that it is not paradoxical although should be one (apparently).

Do you believe something can be affirmed and not believed at the same time?

This shows again the great un-logicity of languages.
Yes I am a firm believer that you can affirm something without believing it (I do it all the time in this forum...) I state many things that apply to the subject within forums but think they are false when I state them I just view the picture from annother angle when I affirm something I do not believe, this does not imply I have to believe what I affirm...


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06-10-2005, 12:57 PM

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Yes I am a firm believer that you can affirm something without believing it (I do it all the time in this forum...) I state many things that apply to the subject within forums but think they are false when I state them I just view the picture from annother angle when I affirm something I do not believe, this does not imply I have to believe what I affirm...
It doesn't, but it implies that you don't use logic completely when you post.

I think that to affirm something, you must not only prove it, but also believe it. The same when you neglect something.
  
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