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    physics is the path to enlightenment

    30 years ago, a book was written by Fritjof Capra

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tao_of_Physics

    but there are still two distinct paths of physics. The inward path to quantum mechanics and the outward path beyond general relativity. Both of these paths are shrouded with mysteries if their ends are unknowable. When will the ends of these two disparate paths come together? For there can only be one true demystified path for physics.

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    Well, I don't know when, but I'm sure that it WILL happen. Science has come to a unification: at the begining, there were hundreds of thousands of theories about each little thing, then came the renaissance, the scientific revolution (the Newtonian one) and this is how things started to unify. Then there was lots of unification for three hundred years. Then the ER and GR came. QM was developped. Everything was being unifyed. It's just that we have to wait, because it is harder to unify these two than anytihng before.

    My question is, wouldn't it be un-scientific to have an overall explenation of everything, based on two things that derive uncertainity (relativity and probability)? What are the philosophic implication of their' unification?

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    Question Physics to enlightenment,is like rhubarb to an iceberg?

    The only constant that seems to be absolutely universal,and yet so unrecognised,is life,itself,life manifest of which we all seem to grasp,and
    life,unmanifest,of which we know nothing.there are many names given
    to life,such as.ather,soul,energy,matter,quantum fluxes,and so on,ad
    nauseum.

    If we can begin to see that all is alive,and that,the word death,or
    unalive,have no real meaning,in reality.life has consciousness,and
    knows its own,all things are related,all life.is family,and like any family
    some times they dont get on.

    light,life,consciousness,soul,spirit,are all part of the same spectrum,and
    the prism that they focus through,is called Life.

    regards michael.

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    Smile how could they be linked

    Quote Originally Posted by AntonioLao
    30 years ago, a book was written by Fritjof Capra

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tao_of_Physics

    but there are still two distinct paths of physics. The inward path to quantum mechanics and the outward path beyond general relativity. Both of these paths are shrouded with mysteries if their ends are unknowable. When will the ends of these two disparate paths come together? For there can only be one true demystified path for physics.
    Antonio,any suggestions asto howthey
    may be linked,is there a key that would unite them,and if so ,shall we all try and
    find it,would we all be willing to try and find the balm that would unite them.
    would that not be a worthy quest for us toe-rs.

    kind regards michael
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    reveal herself?

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    quantized space

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    any suggestions as to how they may be linked
    I have tried linking them with an idea using the quantization of spacetime. I am still working on it.
    Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: a(tr(t)=c²

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick
    any suggestions asto howthey
    may be linked
    Michael, my suggestion is based on Antonio's descrpition of the "outwardy of GR-SR and Inwardy of QM":

    The inside sometimes is the outside. The outside is sometimes the inside.

    Probability is sometimes relative. Relativity is sometimes probabilistic.

    Dependence is the principle of probability and relativity.

    Dependence requiers variability.

    Variablity requiers change.

    Change is motion.

    Motion impplies time.

    Time impplies Events.

    Thus, the TOE is the study of events......"lol! We all knew this already, there was no need of the axiom sequence!" is probably what youa re thinking, but no. These axiomised logical sequence is necessary because it is the proof that TOE is the study of events. A knowledge is a belief until it is proven.

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    Moebius strip

    Quote Originally Posted by GUILLE
    The inside sometimes is the outside. The outside is sometimes the inside.
    The one-sided geometry of Moebius strip has no inside or outside. I am working on a design to show this geometry graphically.
    Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: a(tr(t)=c²

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    Unifying quantum theory with general relativity

    Personally, I think it would be worthwhile to pursue the notion of how gravitational fields affect quantum phenomena.

    Namely, how does redshifting occur? What exactly is going on with redshifting?

    How is it possible that something discrete (quantum photons) can be continuously adjusted (redshifted) and then meaningfully interact on reception (since the receiving electron has discrete energy levels for absorbing quantum energy)? This should be impossible- or else energy is being created from nothing (on upwards sliding from continuous to disrete) or energy is being destroyed (on downwards sliding from continuous to discrete).

    I don't know if this is a key to unlocking the puzzle, but it is puzzling.

    Let me know your thoughts on this.

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    TinyTree,

    The wave/particle duality is used something for now. It's possible taht someone has already explained the electromagnetic spectrum without the need of this paradox, and is just about to publish, and, tomorrow morning, we will wake up with a great discoverment for us, but not for most of the poeple, of course). But it will definatelly die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonioLao
    The one-sided geometry of Moebius strip has no inside or outside. I am working on a design to show this geometry graphically.
    It's hard only to think of someone trying to do so. How do you do so? Is it by having 4 axes?


 

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