[mkirkpatrick]

Involution ceased when it arrived at the momentary pause,just like slack water
when the tidal flow ceases for a moment,before commencing again its cycle.
Then the process of evolution began,all those aeons ago,all the principles that
had been"put in",while the involutionary cycle outrolled its considered path,
would now begin the long process of unraveling its lawful intent?

kind regards michael.

[jim barlow]

I admit I had no business messing with the law of thermodynamics. It is contrary to every observation ever made and in addition it may be in poor taste. What I did was a poetical exercise based of the following premise:

if time is in reality is an already existing ocean of past and future and if we seem to be locked into a small piece of it, into some one-way segment, then our conclusions from this vantage point cannot be worth too much because a large part of the story is playing itself out unknown to us in the big time ocean.

Solution: standing outside of total time and looking in. If we did that then we would not see sequences as before. Corpses would wake up get young and climb back into their mothers, broken cups would assemble and other sequences would look like starting with a god, becoming apes, devolving into reptiles then finally climbing into the mud as single-celled organism.

Seeing this last sequence we would naturally be taken aback until we can make up a suitable story for it. Naturally somebody already has and relieved to say it wasn't I.

[mkirkpatrick]

We Have within us,infinite potential,it is just awaiting our full realization of
that fact!All this potential was vouchsafed within us by the involutionary
process of law,as we become aware,and now that the evolutionary process
is well under way,we can begin to draw on these embedded principles,as we
discover the nature of the human soul,and the expansion of consciousness,
that follows this realization,we begin to claim our rightful heritage of eternal
life,and the responsibilty that understanding brings?

kind regards michael.

[HappytheStripper]

Hi All .. okay so this is involution ..



What about Envolution .. ?? What is Envoltuion.. ??



Well the way I see it .. it is what happens in between involution and evolution .. and its cyclical .. as evolution continues ..

Just a thought .. Ashley

[r.p.bibra]

Science is discovering its own ‘conscious’ & in very near future computers would develop their own ‘conscious, like human conscious, but minus the conscience factor. Conscious is; being aware of the memory stored in memory cells. These mc create their own memory centers (chambers) ---subject wise. The conscious memory is sourced from the objective world. Each entity in nature, live or inert, emits sound (vibration), which also include their images. The sound never dies, it ever vibrates in the cosmos till eternity (TV is living proof). thus our sounds& images are simultaneously in our brains& in the space. After dissolution of ‘matter’ (big-crunch), sounds, images of cosmos, which had formed their individual fields of conscious ---contract into a single particle. These fields of conscious are ‘conscious-memory-centers’ each representing the totality of conscious of a particular category (of intelligence), synthesis into single field of intelligence(toe)& contract into its own self, as latent conscious. These fields of conscious represent different aspects of nature, like gravity, relativity, dimensions& hundreds of other discoveries made so far. The conscious in these fields is in orderly form, adhering to one set of rules (principle). These multiple (seemingly diverse aspects of nature) principles fuse into final (the ultimate) principle, the composite consciousness of the nature—in latent form, till it gets activated again to restart another cycle of evolution. So these cycles of evolution (expansion, big-bang) & involution (big-crunch/contraction of intelligence/principles) are the drama of the sole master, who is its sole director, producer, actor, story writer, curtain raiser its dropper as well.(about mind’s composition, system of storage of memory in brains & the space, shall be taken up later, in an appropriate thread).ls.

[mkirkpatrick]

Interesting way you put your last post,Ls,as great cycles of expansion
and contraction,the big bang=expansion,then the opposite-contraction,this
differs greatly I feel with what I was trying to put across here,but nevertheless does provide an alternative explaination.I see that what we are
reaping now from this harvest of unfolding principles,that were placed there
during the process of involution.

kind regards michael.

[r.p.bibra]

There are two ways to understand your theory of involution: in case the creation is self-cycled, as your hypotheses postulate, then the only way to unfold this model is to be near/in the ‘mind’ of creation. As you have suggested yourself, the mind contains principles within the principles i.e., a grand-design of would be creation is woven in the intricate layers of intelligence. When this model takes final shape, it starts unfolding after some pause.
When the material world dissolute, nothing is left, not even the subtle particles. Only the ‘memory’ (intelligence) of the de-materialized matter is compacted into super-dense state in cosmic-seed---casual-particle, which is stationary in nature. After a ‘pause’ as you suggest, it starts unfolding. In case it is a one time wonder, then it (creation) is devoid of its inherent attributes of creation-sustenance-dissolution, and there will never be any chance of its mysteries being unraveled as by the time human intelligence become mature enough, it would have vanished (exhausted)its unfolding.
(Brahman (supreme-intelligence) manifest creation (Nature) from Itself & when its cycle is complete Brahman goes into itself. After a long nap (pause) it re-activates& starts allover again).
Second scenario: be an observer like the creator, and try to understand/probe his mind. This way we start with the presumption that the nature is not self-cycled and there is an outside ‘agency’ which has prepared its grand-design in its mind, which it shall manifest/unfold as& well ‘willed’ by it. with kind regards. ls

[mkirkpatrick]

Of course when I was at school we were taught about evolution,many classes,devoted to the subject,But never once did I hear tell of the word or
of the idea of involution!That had to come years later,when school had been
left far behind?What I am reaping today,that which is unfolding in me today,
and also in you,and in all manifestation today,had to first be inserted!!You
cannot unfold something that is not at first already present within??That would be absolutely impossible,and cannot happen!The grand law of involution inserts within the protyle principle,the first principle,that all others
unfold from all the "will be needed" material for its opposite (evolution) to
use at the appointed point in the unfolding process!
My one wish is that schools of the near future will also teach their pupils
this most important part of the whole story?


kind regards michael.

[harmonygirl]

is this another take on aether?

[r.p.bibra]

"All experiences of pleasure and pain have their origin in the thoughts of man. A thought is like the seed of a tree, which in due course puts forth branches, leaves, flowers and fruits. All that you see in a tree has come from a small seed. Likewise, although man's thought is subtle, it contains potentially the entire universe. The atom is the microcosm of the Universe. One may have noticed the huge size of the banyan tree; however its seed is very small. Intrinsically, the seed and the tree are essentially one." ( by a sage)