[subversion]

oh yes, I have not changed the definition of any of these numbers, I have simply stated why I think they have been "subconsciously" named what they have been named over the course of time. In other words, I am saying it is not pure coincidence that irrational numbers have come to be known as "irrational," or that odd numbers have been named odd, or that transcendental numbers have been named transcendental. The mathematical identities of these numbers is still the very same, this is just looking at what all it means. Mathematically, a prime number is a prime number because it is indivisible by anything but one and itself, therefore it is composed of no other factors, therefore it is a fundamental unit (of rational mathematics). All this means that it is a prime number. But what significance is there in the word prime? WHat all does it mean, and how does it apply to reality? That's what I'm asking you.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by subversion oh yes, I have not changed the definition of any of these numbers, I have simply stated why I think they have been "subconsciously" named what they have been named over the course of time. In other words, I am saying it is not pure coincidence that irrational numbers have come to be known as "irrational," or that odd numbers have been named odd, or that transcendental numbers have been named transcendental. The mathematical identities of these numbers is still the very same, this is just looking at what all it means. Mathematically, a prime number is a prime number because it is indivisible by anything but one and itself, therefore it is composed of no other factors, therefore it is a fundamental unit (of rational mathematics). All this means that it is a prime number. But what significance is there in the word prime? WHat all does it mean, and how does it apply to reality? That's what I'm asking you.

Sub,my friend,the dude who refuses to be rude!Listen
up ole buddy,do not strain on a gnat,while swallowing a camel?There is only
the number one,and its cousin zero!All the rest are just,1 plus 1 etc.Like a binary system which is on =1or off=0.
take care ole buddy,
michael.

[subversion]

So you're saying that one is the prime prime number? Hey Antonio, is zero a prime number?

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by subversion is zero a prime number?

prime numbers has two factors: 1 and itself. However, zero divided zero is not defined in mathematics. But you can choose or invent your own definition, all it takes is agreed mathematical logic.

[subversion]

0/0=anything, which can be either something or nothing

so it is possible to say that 0/0=1 (something)
also 0/1=0 and 1X0=0
but zero can also be divided by other things besides one and itself, but never to equal anything other than zero

so zero seems kind of like a prime number but a little different...
maybe it's a special case of prime number - the zeroth

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by subversion so it is possible to say that 0/0=1

Are you talking about set? I don't know anything about set. Therefore whatever you say I have no comment.

[subversion]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao Are you talking about set?

I don't know, you tell me. Am I?

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by subversion I don't know, you tell me. Am I?

Sub,ole pal,It
would bring me great joy to buy you a burger of your choice,and a large
malted shake!We could mosy on down to the ok corral,take aload off,maybe
shoot some pool.And comeup with a plan?whadda ya say,ole buddy.


kind regards michael.

[AntonioLao]

I don't know, you tell me. Am I?

I am talking about numbers specifically the real numbers. In the theory of real numbers 0/0 is not defined. Based on my ignorant about set, my guess is that since a set is not a number therefore the ratio of two null sets could have some other meaning.

[Mohan.C]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao I am talking about numbers specifically the real numbers. In the theory of real numbers 0/0 is not defined. Based on my ignorant about set, my guess is that since a set is not a number therefore the ratio of two null sets could have some other meaning.

How can the ratio of two null sets be something. Isn't null set something which has nothing in it. Then what set is nothing ie. I think null set, which is not a set. But the set of integers have 0. And integers is not a group under division. Because 0/0 is meaningless. But 1/0 is infinity is it then that infinity multiplied by 0 is 1 or may be it is also meaningleess because anthing/0 is infinity and so infinity*0 also should be anything.
If at all this makes sense.