[subversion]

It is my belief that I have a particularly powerful nac for seeing the hidden meanings which have been instinctually and intrinsically embedded in our language by our own ancestors. For example, I ask questions like this, "is there a reason that the word correct means not only scientific truth, but the best of all possibilities and a good thing as well? Similarly, is there a reason that the word wrong refers to something that is scientifically untrue, as well as something that is the worst possibility, and a bad thing? Does this dual meaning in our language connect physical truth with emotion and morality, imlplying that truth is the best possible thing, untruth the worst possible thing, and is it our own subconsious engineering of language through time which has inadvertently and unwittingly brought this truth to light?" More examples exist.

For example, why is it that we have come to know the term as "mother nature." Why not father nature? Also, why is it known as father time, instead of mother time? Is this just meaningless, or is it?

Having introduced this phenomenon whereby one word or phrase general implies another thing which seems to be unrelated, but may not be, allow me to now talk about even and odd. As you all know, counting numbers are either even or odd. Why is it then, I ask you, that the odd numbers are, well, odd. They are the oddballs, the misfits, the miscreants. Whereas even numbers, they are so nice and even. So is their an intrinsic meaning for valuing even numbers better than odd ones? In other words, why don't we consider even numbers to be odd? Perhaps there is some reason in the universe for this. I'm not suggesting that you know, rather, I'm suggesting that you don't.

[hanzoganz]

Names are given by their inventors. Some times it makes sense, if you read the myths of the first humans. In modern science, the names are not more inside a bag. So the scientist has to name the new discoveries. I wouldn`t worry too much about the lingüisitics of the scientific names; I would try to comprehend them.

[mkirkpatrick]

There are many hidden things in our every day words,that 99% of those who use them,do not realise what the original "Idea" meant,when we use words that have the name of a colour attached to them,how many realise what this
really means?When we say he or she is "green" with envy,red for rage,black
or gray for depression,feeling blue,all these colours decribe states of being and what has been lost,is that,these are indeed colours of the human aura as
seen by any sensitive,or clairvoyant,we use the words but have forgotton what they truly signify.


regards michael.

[subversion]

ahh yes, an excellent example mkirkpatrick. Can anybody think of any more?

[Guille]

Sub,

If you wouldn't have considered yourself superior from the start of the thread, you would recieve much more consideration.

You are not the only one (nor the first, nor the best) that came to the idea that right (correct) and wrong can mean morality (good and evil) or truthness (truth and falsity), and that this might be on purpose from those who created our languages to join the idea of truth with goodness and happiness. It might have been like that, or it might not (I'm not a historian). What I know is that goodness doesn't necessarily bring happiness, as is shown by Freud's studies of mental disordered people, and by the relativity not only of happiness, but of goodness (what is good for someone should give him/her happiness (to kill, for ex), but that doesn't mean it's good in principle).

Now, mother nature and father time is simply an automatic assuption by humans. Women give life, not men, I cannot give birth and neither can you, therefore as nature gave us all life, it is said 'mother nature'. But not that mother doesn't represent anything of the nature of nature, simply the analogy between women and nature.

About even and odd numbers, do you mean evens are even and odds are odd in shape, I mean, in the representation of the numbers? If so, then there is no connection. The number signs (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0) come from the Arabs, and in their form the numbers are quite different. Anyway there are earlier number sings, from romans, greeks, egyptians... If you mean this difference in a different way, please explain it.

I can think of one more example, although it's not quite the same. We tend to think (and is quite classic in western society) that white is the colour of absence of colour. Whiles indeed physics proved over a century and a half ago that white is not the absence of colour but the collection of all colours. And therefore black is the absence of colour.

[hanzoganz]

Well, colors are to be measured as wavelenghts, so there is a point. Same with emotions, that can be measure the same way by EEG.

As for the names, it is an interesting thing but not the aim of math in particular.

And Aura? I wouldn`t mix esotherism with science. just like that.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by hanzoganz Well, colors are to be measured as wavelenghts, so there is a point. Same with emotions, that can be measure the same way by EEG. As for the names, it is an interesting thing but not the aim of math in particular. And Aura? I wouldn`t mix esotherism with science. just like that.

Why
not combine the two,I have even coined a new word to do just that(scispirtion)we could then unite the combined knowledge,and the the united
sum would be greater than the (whole).

kind regards michael.

[baudrunner]

from Mkirkpatrick:

Why not combine the two,I have even coined a new word to do just that(scispirtion)we could then unite the combined knowledge,and the the united sum would be greater than the (whole).

The art of coining new words is called neologism.

Now, in the case of our own mkirkpatrick coining new words, I don't really know how to take this, because his spelling record is so atrocious that I am not certain that he has spelt his own word correctly so I can't begin to analyse its origins.

From Wikepedia:

In theology, a neologism is a relatively new doctrine (for example, rationalism). In this sense, a neologist is an innovator in the area of a doctrine or belief system, and is often considered heretical or subversive by the mainstream church.

Speaking of combining, isn't this just weird? See how everything that goes around comes around? Not only that, but rationalism for example! Just uncanny how things that come around sometimes dive headfirst into their own murky netherness(!).

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by baudrunner from Mkirkpatrick: The art of coining new words is called neologism. Now, in the case of our own mkirkpatrick coining new words, I don't really know how to take this, because his spelling record is so atrocious that I am not certain that he has spelt his own word correctly so I can't begin to analyse its origins. From Wikepedia: Speaking of combining, isn't this just weird? See how everything that goes aroound comes around? Not only that, but rationalism for example! Just uncanny how things that come around dive headfirst into their own murky netherness(!).

Well thank you baud,yes you are write my speling is
kwite atroshus at times,(I must get educated like you)Baud,then i will be
able to insult people in such a way,that they think they are being praised!
by the way,have you started therapy yet?
kind regards michael.

[baudrunner]

Work your way out of the predicament so that we can talk. By the way, you heard the one about the mathematician with constipation? He tried to work it out with a pencil!

Therapy is something I am better able to provide than take.

So far "scispirtion" seems to be a combined form of the words scissors and aspersion, or possibly dispersion, I'm not sure. Either way, you have brilliantly illustrated my generic paradox principle which in this case is of the premature ejaculation of verboseity type (not to be confused with obesity, which I can't actually scispirt in this case through recombination) in that the word seems to be an opposite of sorts, or antonym (I don't know if you're familiar with the spelling) of the concept of combining. Could you help out?