[AntonioLao]

math is not a science. This means it cannot prove or disprove the existence of any real thing. So, it cannot be used to prove, for examples, the existence of God, mermaid, or unicorn.

mathematical ideas are simply the products of human imaginations abstracted by the use of number systems for describing idealized observations about the external physical world and establishing a logical connection between the internal virtual mind and real brain, or imaginary force and real energy, or real space and imaginary time. So, it is as fallable as that human mind is capable of being deceived by optical illusions deluding it to believe in a reality which can never of becoming actualized.

[Guille]

Do you really think force, time and mind are virtual?

These are real. If by virtual you mean subjective, not ocmpletely the true reality, then yes, these, as everything, is virtual. But not imaginary. Math is something real in the sense that iahas been created. Although it's NOT physical. It is, like you said, what we invented to interpret quantities, numbers.

What do you mean by connection between real and virtual/imaginary?

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by GUILLE Do you really think force, time and mind are virtual?

fundamental forces are manifested by the real energy differences as in the Lagrangians and the Hamiltonians of their fields. Therefore force fields are all imaginary and also virtual but their energies are reals as what we can measure and detect by experiments. In special relativity, time is along the imaginary axis. Without the physical brain of grey matter, mind cannot exist independently.

[quanta07]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao math is not a science. This means it cannot prove or disprove the existence of any real thing. So, it cannot be used to prove, for examples, the existence of God, mermaid, or unicorn.

I agree, but wish to interject that mathematics is also a Tool used in the Communication of conceptual ideas and observations.

Originally Posted by AntonioLao mathematical ideas are simply the products of human imaginations abstracted by the use of number systems for describing idealized observations about the external physical world and establishing a logical connection between the internal virtual mind and real brain, or imaginary force and real energy, or real space and imaginary time. So, it is as fallable as that human mind is capable of being deceived by optical illusions deluding it to believe in a reality which can never of becoming actualized.

Some who study mathematics have found creative freedom.
The constructions of concepts that may or may not be observable in nature.
In some constructs there is great beauty of design and wonderment of existence.
There is escape from reality, as others know it, into a world of structure and form that yields comfort. For others it is a world of melancholy.
MATHEMATICS...A communication Tool, symbols of concepts,
shared among real scientist, each in quest for understanding and the sharing of knowledge.
(time is not imaginary).....q7

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by quanta07 (time is not imaginary).....

when use in physical theories, time is not imaginary. But time by itself remains within the imaginary domain of human creative imagination for abstraction.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao when use in physical theories, time is not imaginary. But time by itself remains within the imaginary domain of human creative imagination for abstraction.

Are you trying to say that it is not time but motion what is affected by gravity? It could make a lot of sense...

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by GUILLE Are you trying to say that it is not time but motion what is affected by gravity? It could make a lot of sense...

LIM creates mass and charge and time and momentum. LIM is just the square of energy. The square root of LIM can be both kinetic and potential energy.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao LIM creates mass and charge and time and momentum. LIM is just the square of energy. The square root of LIM can be both kinetic and potential energy.

Thus, time, momentum, mass and charge are all created by energy (squared)?

[AntonioLao]

time exists because LIM exists. mass exists because LIMs can be multiplied. charge exists because LIMs can be added together. momentum is just the ratio of quantized space over continuous space or the square of energy over the product of light speed and energy.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao time exists because LIM exists. mass exists because LIMs can be multiplied. charge exists because LIMs can be added together. momentum is just the ratio of quantized space over continuous space or the square of energy over the product of light speed and energy.

And LIM is to do with quantized motion?

What about space, why does it exist?