| |
 | |
 | |
2nd degree Black Belt
Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 305
12  | |
10-10-2007, 01:42 PM
| | Re: Logic and Mathematics
Quote:
Originally Posted by MJA  To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. - Jefferson | Dear MJA,
To prove your repeated assertions, let Facts and Reasonings be submitted to match our candid world - not just magic empty words and quoted wisdoms.
Best Regards. Bottomlander | | | | 7th degree Black Belt
Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,087
19 | |
10-10-2007, 02:38 PM
| | Re: Logic and Mathematics
Thanks for trying to understand equality Bottomlander, not many do.
The single problem of our universe, is the inhumanity or inequity that we have created. Inequity is the battle between have and have-nots, not only between the inequity of each other, but the equally destructive inequity of man and nature. The struggle for nature's natural equilibrium, or equality, is the struggle for nature's balance or nature's truth.
Can man reunite its destructive differences, equate its divisiveness, and balance itself with others, with the natural true oneness of all?
I think so, it's called the cycle of full circle.
We're going back to square one, but time is running out.
Equality starts with oneself.
It will spread by the words and deeds of those who know the truth. We are what we are taught. If taught equality we will become equal. If taught the truth, we will be true.
Equality starts with the words and deeds of you and me.
=
MJA
__________________ The truth of everything is less than one inch, it is only equal and the lion is one. One is free when the door is opened, education has the key. = | | | | 9th degree Black Belt
Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,579
27 | |
10-10-2007, 03:09 PM
| | Re: Logic and Mathematics
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tina Can you express this statement for me using logical values? | Hi Tina, yes. If criminals had the right to kill at will, that would be equality of freedom, so I choose liberty, a repression of some freedoms, so all may enjoy reasonable freedoms.
Regards,
Lloyd
__________________
"To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
"Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
"The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G.
"The tick-tick-tick of the cesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G. | | | | 6th degree Black Belt
Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 926
18 | |
10-10-2007, 08:29 PM
| | Re: Logic and Mathematics
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie Hi Tina, yes. If criminals had the right to kill at will, that would be equality of freedom, so I choose liberty, a repression of some freedoms, so all may enjoy reasonable freedoms.
Regards,
Lloyd |
The Law does not stop criminals from being criminals . All the Law can do is try establish rights to catch and punish them. | | | | 6th degree Black Belt
Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 926
18 | |
10-11-2007, 08:32 AM
| | Re: Logic and Mathematics
[quote=Guille;6787]
Probably you know that the basis of mathematics is logic. But, how exactly does mathematics relate to logic? Is it logic's language, or just a type of use of it?
QUOTE]
Logic has many limitations in that all is either True or False. This is akin to saying all is black or white. The language of mathematics has more scope in identifying "grey areas".
Logic says either 1 or -1
Mathematics can say "not (1) but not (not 1) but nearly (1) = .999 "
Mathematics identifies the grey areas that logic cannot deal with. | | | | 9th degree Black Belt
Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,579
27 | |
10-12-2007, 02:06 PM
| | Re: Logic and Mathematics
Tina, the subject I replied to was logical values, not law. The criminal rules all law, if he wishes, until caught...
BTW, there are 137 different logic systems, covered by 9 categories. I think there's plenty of room in them all, to cover all areas of thought and math... Mathematics can not deal with true infinity and true zero, intuitionistic logic can... True infinity can exist, and true zero can not, as zero is always a positive integer...
Lloyd
__________________
"To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
"Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
"The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G.
"The tick-tick-tick of the cesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G. | | | | 6th degree Black Belt
Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 926
18 | |
10-12-2007, 07:54 PM
| | Re: Logic and Mathematics
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie As you study both, or all, you travel both, or all, do you not? Then the true path lights its own direction...
Lloyd | YOU CAN TRAVEL BOTH ROADS - BUT NEVER SIMULTANOUSLY - YOU CAN ONLY SWITCH FROM ONE TO THE OTHER - ALTERNATELY. | | | | 6th degree Black Belt
Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 926
18 | |
10-12-2007, 08:14 PM
| | Re: Logic and Mathematics
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie You better tell the world to stop eating plants and animals, as it creates inequality of rights, between eaters, and the eaten... Why don't you try to figure why E=1/5X, is a formula for absolute equality, then you'll know something equal...
Lloyd | Consumption of life is not the destruction of life - it is sustenance of life - If a seed does not die and fall to the ground it cannot reproduce many new seeds. "Death" is the means of continuation of life. If earth shakes us off - this is not death - it is desolation. | | | | 6th degree Black Belt
Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 926
18 | |
10-12-2007, 08:24 PM
| | Re: Logic and Mathematics
Quote:
Originally Posted by AntonioLao As some intuitionists would say math is prior within the mind (idealized existence) before rationality (reasoning and thinking). No one has to be taught to recognize what is beautiful and symmetrical. | Yes but we have to find out why the "beautiful and symmetrical" proves to be such a distraction above all else. Why does Paris Hilton for example command more attention (and money) from the world than a starving child? | | | | 9th degree Black Belt
Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,579
27 | |
10-13-2007, 07:24 PM
| | Re: Logic and Mathematics
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tina Yes but we have to find out why the "beautiful and symmetrical" proves to be such a distraction above all else. Why does Paris Hilton for example command more attention (and money) from the world than a starving child? | Sex appeal and money, nothing more...
Lloyd
__________________
"To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
"Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
"The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G.
"The tick-tick-tick of the cesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G. | | | | | |
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes |  Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off | | |
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:55 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4 Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
VBulletin Skin by ForumMonkeys.
| |
