[Fluent Piffle]

Absolutely correct, MJA. We are also Nature, so we do it to ourselves, and this is because we are ignorant of ourselves, and our true Nature's. Lloyd has a pot of gold that he is trying to protect, that is all. You cannot blame him, as he has been taught to respect such things, and feels as though he is only protecting a life-style which he has been taught to see as 'correct'. Thus he fails to see the greater picture, believing that he already has it (in the shape of 'wealth').

Empires crumble because the masonic cultists that 'run' them do not realise the simple and basic truth, which is that people always bring on their own problems by pretending some kind of 'superiority'. It's quite laughable, really, believing you can 'know reality' by trying to avoid it!

To know it, you must BE it. Reality is Honesty; the truth of how existence exists. That is why even those who come close usually still only get fleeting glances of it!


pif.

[N0B0DY]

Could just be my imagination, but it seems as though that there is a superior position of knowledge taken by yourself, pif.

Isn't the whole point we're here is to discover what reality is and isn't? Once again begging how exactly the "truth" of existence exists.

Sometimes life is like a mirror, but has no function if the eyes are closed.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Isn't this a logic and math thread...? I don't see any sense pandering to exaggerated humanist ideas, in such a thread. Try addressing the issues, not the person...

Originally Posted by MJA

Hello Lloyd,

Ignoring the devastatingly destructive impact or human effects on this planet Earth is the absolute true definition of ignorance.
Denial is a symptom of something much much worse.
Believing nature will shake us off like fleas is not correct, because we are nature.
We have to fix it ourselves, before it is to late.

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MJA

[MJA]

Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie

Isn't this a logic and math thread...? I don't see any sense pandering to exaggerated humanist ideas, in such a thread. Try addressing the issues, not the person...

Mathematically, equal is the solution to every equation. And just like nature, equality is the simple solution to everything.

There you go Lloyd, the solution to any problem is simply equal.

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MJA

[Lloyd Gillespie]

You better tell the world to stop eating plants and animals, as it creates inequality of rights, between eaters, and the eaten... Why don't you try to figure why E=1/5X, is a formula for absolute equality, then you'll know something equal...

Lloyd

Originally Posted by MJA

Mathematically, equal is the solution to every equation. And just like nature, equality is the simple solution to everything.

There you go Lloyd, the solution to any problem is simply equal.

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MJA

[MJA]

Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie

You better tell the world to stop eating plants and animals, as it creates inequality of rights, between eaters, and the eaten... Why don't you try to figure why E=1/5X, is a formula for absolute equality, then you'll know something equal...

Lloyd

= is the solution to your equation as well as 2+2 = 4.

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MJA

Eating meat is terribly inhumane!!!

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Wrong again, MJA. Absolute equality is absolute injustice... I'll take liberty, thanks...

Originally Posted by MJA

= is the solution to your equation as well as 2+2 = 4.

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MJA

Eating meat is terribly inhumane!!![Joke___Then stop eating the meat of the plants...Bye... The Venus Fly-Trap is a friend of mine...]

[MJA]

Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie

Wrong again, MJA. Absolute equality is absolute injustice... I'll take liberty, thanks...

Liberty is the freedom of everything equally, including the animals you eat.
It is only the mistaken measure of yourself that you find yourself so supreme. And as for your taste for blood, the blood of animals that you measure so inferior to yourself, only a primitively barbaric animal, would eat other animals like you. But those animals have no choice, you do.

Equal is the true natural state of the universe, and you Lloyd, have tipped the balance of nature's scale. Don't eat meat, it's better for you, and obviously as well for them.

And,

The source of nature's motion is not zero entropy, it is simply nature's own self balancing, equalization. There is no absolute zero, or absolute measure except equal.

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MJA

[Lloyd Gillespie]

You know MJA, I was young and foolish like you once, too. If I take your equilibriating philosophy seriously, I don't think even you will like the outcome. Let me show you. According to your ideas, good and evil should equilibriate. Now truly, don't you think it would be a better world, if the greater good prevailed over a lot lesser evil? Tis true that equality should have its day, but when taken to it's extremes, it is rather ridiculous, now ain't it...? I think I'll take the side of the greater good for the most, and leave the equalibrium of good and evil to you...

"When good men do nothing, evil triumphs." U.

Lloyd

Originally Posted by MJA

Liberty is the freedom of everything equally, including the animals you eat.[Wrong. Liberty is a reduction of freedoms, so two can live together without killing each, with their freedom, to do so, otherwise.]
It is only the mistaken measure of yourself that you find yourself so supreme.["Age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill..."] And as for your taste for blood, the blood of animals that you measure so inferior to yourself, only a primitively barbaric animal, would eat other animals like you. But those animals have no choice, you do.[They're not inferior, I'm just gonna eat em.]

Equal is the true natural state of the universe, and you Lloyd, have tipped the balance of nature's scale.[Well, if you wanna settle for what is... I'd rather see a better world, where good is far superior to evil...] Don't eat meat, it's better for you, and obviously as well for them.[You better make ma a replicator...]

And,

The source of nature's motion is not zero entropy, it is simply nature's own self balancing, equalization.[Nature's equalization is abstract nonsense. Zero entropy is nature's own natural eternal mechanics.] There is no absolute zero, or absolute measure except equal.[Your "god" of equal has a broken wing...]

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MJA

Lloyd

[MJA]

Lloyd,

In a world of equity, do I think good and evil should equate?
Or, if the world is equal, is good and evil?
Is that your question? If so, I'll try to answer it.
The simple answer is obviously no. And to explain,
Isn't it true to say that some things don't belong here.
Some things like evil are simply naturally wrong?
Isn't it true to say that some things so wrong, so out of nature's place, really shouldn't exist?
Your argument that equal does not exist because there is good and evil in mankind is incorrect.
It is the imbalance of evil, that we must correct, that we must remove, to equate ourselves.
It makes no sense that we would give a righteous person some evil to balance or equate him, does it?
Evil should not ever be placed on a scale of justice, or even measured.
It should simply be eliminated from the universe. It is wrong that it exists.
If it is true that man is the root of all evil, then it is us that needs removing or changing.
I suggest the later for only the ultimate purpose of life.
Tina, who is new on this forum has a great thread going on evil, perhaps she will shed some light on it's cause and perhaps it's ultimate demise.
In short my answer is this: some things shouldn't be measured, and naturally, evil should not exist at all.

Does that work Lloyd?

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MJA

Whew!