[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by hanzoganz As for maths, we try to take as much as we can from all possible sources, including other sciences.

So, is there a consensus as to what mathematics really is, aside from its applicabilities in various sciences?

[harmonygirl]

Antonio, I don't like labels and categories so my answer to your initial question would be that I will just state my views and leave the labelling to those who enjoy that sort of thing. I think that math is one path that can lead to truth because math is present in nature. Mandelbrot was able to develop a set that IMO turns math on its ear, recognizing that nature is not about equating but about becoming. Where math divurges from truth is where artificial rules for relationships are created and accepted as truth. I think that the mathematical training is great, keeping in mind it is a tool by which we can discover truth and not truth itself.

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl keeping in mind it is a tool by which we can discover truth and not truth itself.

The physical truth I'm looking for via math truth is the feasibility of cold or hot fusion. So far, nobody found it yet. As long as I'm able, I'll continue looking for it unless someone can convince me otherwise of its futility.

[hanzoganz]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao So, is there a consensus as to what mathematics really is, aside from its applicabilities in various sciences?

I believe the divisions stated with Zermelo, Frankl, Frege, Rusell, Godel -if you like-, are not of most importance anymore. A few years ago, and in some universities nowadays, they still have separations of programs: pure, applied, computational, stitistical.
but pure and applied have proved to be not so distant anymore. Computers use number theory, that is the hardcore of pure math. Statistics use ODE's, that come from pure and applied.
I guess my point is that we live and create better without the boundaries of classification.

cheers

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by hanzoganz I guess my point is that we live and create better without the boundaries of classification.

Thanks for your realistic insight. Looks like I need to create my own math in order to work out a feasibility study for cold or hot fusion.

[archetype]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao The biggest prime question: Is infinity a prime number?

Would it be sir Antonio that 1/0 is the biggest prime number?

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by archetype that 1/0 is the biggest prime number?

This could be demonstrated by the use of binary numbers, 1/0 is then represented by an infinite number of 1's ...11111111111111111111111111111111111111...as the largest prime.

[baudrunner]

Looks like I need to create my own math in order to work out a feasibility study for cold or hot fusion.

That pretty much says it all. Mathematics stretches string theory into other dimensions but theory is all that it will ever be. You may very well prove that contained and sustained fusion in the laboratory is doable mathematically but that does not make it possible on any practical level. Fusion is the process in hydrogen bombs and suns. There is a good starting point for evaluating the mathematical components. You will no doubt find that in order for fusion to exist we would need to either create a sun or a hydrogen bomb, end of story. It seems to me that if contained sustained fusion in the lab were actually possible then we would probably not even have a Uiverse wherein to conduct the experiment. The energies that prevent such a thing from happening are simply too stubborn to overcome in a controlled manner. They are the same energies that prevent all the elements from arbitrarily unravelling, reorganizing and recreating themselves.

Ignoring the costs of scale, to my mind the only possible alternative is to have a massive hydrogen bomb chamber, constanly refeulled and constantly generating huge amounts of energy. Impossible? Maybe not.

[harmonygirl]

would this also apply to cold fusion?

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao The physical truth I'm looking for via math truth is the feasibility of cold or hot fusion. So far, nobody found it yet. As long as I'm able, I'll continue looking for it unless someone can convince me otherwise of its futility.

Please keep looking Antonio,I sincerly hope you find it,there is a way though Antonio,think about Samadhi,and dropping all your
resisistance to zero point,that way Antonio,natural law will super conduct you into a state of superconductivity,where youwill then witness the act of
perfect fusion at room temperature,and live to tell the tale!All youreallyneed for fusion to occur,is absolute resistentlessness.

kind regards michael.