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    Smile Imagine If You Will-It Will-Become?

    A simple question,that no-one seems to know the answer to,and that is what is
    Energy?What exactly is it! No one in any of the sciences knows.What is the essence of energy!We see the effects of energy,we feel its presence,but that
    is surely its outer shell.what is the effect within the cause?energy is really only
    an outward effect of an inner cause,and that inner cause is Mind,energy is mind
    in its outer effect,and mind is Spirit in its inner state.energy is the form for the
    formless soul,it is the cloth that is weaved into galaxies,stars,suns,human-beings,and all life.the fabric for life is energy,the inner core of energy is thought
    mind-stuff-chitta.It is already beginning to be RE-Cog-nised by some of the sciences,that behind all manifestation lies Mind,this will over the next few years
    gain in momentum and become accepted.Soon may this day arrive!!!

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    Measurement Vs Entity

    Michael;
    I thought you had been reading my posts. "Energy" is not the entity, it is the measurement. It is the measurement of the motion state (also called mass) or the change in motion states. Example: Radiant energy is defining a vibrational state of matter. Kinetic energy is defining a state of uniform velocity of matter. Potential energy is the measured state of matter's uniform motion or mass.

    Science is purely based on our ability to measure. The greatest problem with the neophytes is that they tend to think the measurement is an object of substance or physical existence.

    Most everyone in science KNOWS.

    Best wishes; Dave
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    Smile the terms we use.

    I understand what you are saying Dave,But it is about terms and words we use.
    I use energy,you use mass,matter,To me they are all the same,one coverts into
    the other,we use many words to describe the same thing,you say that science
    measures,there is no measurement of all.it cannot be done!Matter and mass are
    simply outer-manifestations of inner-mindful-intent.There is only One power,one force,one energy,one mind,one mass,one matter,just one add infinitum!!!



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    Energy is the one thing that God did not create. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. Energy makes possible, those things that in and of themselves are not possible.
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    Smile energy lasts a long long time maybe forever!

    Quote Originally Posted by michellemfry
    Energy is the one thing that God did not create. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. Energy makes possible, those things that in and of themselves are not possible.
    You are then in effect saying
    that energy is eternal right?
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    The Idea...

    Quote Originally Posted by michellemfry
    Energy is the one thing that God did not create. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. Energy makes possible, those things that in and of themselves are not possible.
    Absolutely correct, Michell, and beautifully put.

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    "The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G.
    "The tick-tick-tick of the caesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.

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    Smile Re: Imagine If You Will-It Will-Become?

    The imagination is a powerful thing,look at what "they" found in physics!
    When "they" predicted a particle it would "oddly" appear!It was also found that if you "looked" at a particle,then that would alter it as well!So what is
    going on,In the esoteric sciences,and occult physics,the power of the "gaze"
    has been known for thousands of years,present day science and physics are
    only now beginning to realise the power behind "intent" and focussed thought?When they further grasp the implications of this discovery,there will
    ensue a quantum jump in "imaginal sciences"?The trident of power will stand
    revealed,and energy will be re-assigned to its rightful position?


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    Cool Re: Imagine If You Will-It Will-Become?

    well, if we must have a divine being, why can't it be energy? If it is true that energy could not have been created by the Goddess, why not have energy be the Goddesses representation in this dimension (or at least consider the possibility)?
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    Re: Imagine If You Will-It Will-Become?

    Energy is an entity unto its own .. and not comparable with any other known entity .. It is the reason of everything for everything .. and nothing ..

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    Re: Imagine If You Will-It Will-Become?

    Quote Originally Posted by HappytheStripper
    Energy is an entity unto its own .. and compared with any other known entity .. It is the reason of everything .. and nothing ..

    Ashley
    I disagree. Energy is indeed an entity but not unto its own. It can only be if matter is. Just as time can only be if space is. Time and energy are very similar analogously. And we assume time depends on the motion of things. Doesn't energy depend too on the motion of things? It does, and not only on the motion, but any kind of energy (PE or KE). It is not the reason but the manifestation of everything. The reason, or backround physically speaking of matter (and matter is everything there is, the rest are just qualities and attributes), is dimensionality, space-time. It's manifestations are force and energy, for they give form, size, shape, state, motion... to it.



 

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