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Re: time - 11-26-2007, 01:07 PM

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Re: time - 11-27-2007, 01:30 PM

sorry Pat this question seems to have anoyed you, i was hoping to hear a different theory on time or other thoughts
i wont ask the question has time any force than
  
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Re: time - 11-27-2007, 01:36 PM

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sorry Pat this question seems to have anoyed you, i was hoping to hear a different theory on time or other thoughts
i wont ask the question has time any force than
Not at all swoarg;

You'll know when I'm annoyed and your post is interesting. I just didn't believe time moved.

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Post Re: time - 11-27-2007, 03:40 PM

When we ask a question about something that does not exist,(time)it is not surprising
that we get many answers,all somewhat different!





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Re: time - 11-27-2007, 04:24 PM

[quote=mkirkpatrick;40995]When we ask a question about something that does not exist,(time)it is not surprising
that we get many answers,all somewhat different!

Hi Michael;

I hope everything is going well for you.

Actually I think time does exist as a concept, it's just not a real physical entity.

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Re: time - 11-27-2007, 04:53 PM

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When we ask a question about something that does not exist,(time)it is not surprising
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This of course depends on your definition of existence. Does space exist? I would answer to this "yes, since I can move in space." Does time exist? Well, the answer would be the same "yes, I can move in time." What is your definition of existence in this context?
  
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Re: time - 11-27-2007, 05:15 PM

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This of course depends on your definition of existence. Does space exist? I would answer to this "yes, since I can move in space." Does time exist? Well, the answer would be the same "yes, I can move in time." What is your definition of existence in this context?


Do you really move in time Neutralino, or does it take you time to move in space. Space ( not the Void ) is a real entity. It's filled with "stuff" ( quantum foam, gravitational waves, 3d EMR, and whatever else may be there )

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Re: time - 11-27-2007, 05:28 PM

hi there good to hear i am not anoying obviously i have very limited knowledge. but i think i am trying to look at time from a particle or quantum existence looking at it any other way and i get the same old answers but in my other thread neutralino you mentioned ctc,s closed timelike curves which to me opens up possibilties
of time being more than just a measurement or maybe there is another form of time that we are yet to discover

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Do you really move in time Neutralino, or does it take you time to move in space. Space ( not the Void ) is a real entity. It's filled with "stuff" ( quantum foam, gravitational waves, 3d EMR, and whatever else may be there )

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You make a good point, Pat. I'm not claiming to have all the answers, but I believe that time is one dimension of our four dimensional spacetime manifold which, according to the theory of relativity, is curved by matter. In this sense, I believe it to be physical.

Time is one of those strange things, though, that no-one really knows much about. I might plug my favourite book on the subject here: the river of time by igor novikov-- definitely worth a read if you've got some free time.
  
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Re: time - 11-27-2007, 07:05 PM

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You make a good point, Pat. I'm not claiming to have all the answers, but I believe that time is one dimension of our four dimensional spacetime manifold which, according to the theory of relativity, is curved by matter. In this sense, I believe it to be physical.

Time is one of those strange things, though, that no-one really knows much about. I might plug my favourite book on the subject here: the river of time by igor novikov-- definitely worth a read if you've got some free time.



An illustrated 'curvature of space-time'.

(Matter is in a constant state of 4-D expanding acceleration - moving perpendicular to it's three recognized dimensions of space, generating 'space-time'. Excerpted from 'Gravity is the 4th Dimension', by K. B. Robertson)

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