What does enlightenment feel like?

[polarmedium]

The experience of enlightenment feels EXACTLY THE SAME as saving a bunch of money on your car insurance.

[austintorn@aol.com]

It feels like the action or state of attaining or having attained spiritual knowledge or insight, in particular (in Buddhism) that awareness which frees a person from the cycle of rebirth.

No, not really, but that what the dictionary said.

[polarmedium]

Funny Austin

Free Energy and electrical outlets, everywhere.

Put the two together and what are we missing?

It is beside the point. The point is:

Wireless Power.

Necessity is the mother of all invention.

That which is deemed necessary is controlled in part by corporation, in part by the law of supply and demand. Our power lies in unity. Unity in deciding what is necessity. And what is even more important, what is beyond necessity. What is necessity in the realm of fun. For myself, a computer, an electrical outlet. Wireless Power?

Heh, don't think solar that way?

We have so much to learn, and yet it is such a simple lesson.

(Good dump?)


Good question Sally.

[SteveA]

Interesting. So how do you manage to function in society? Do you talk in person as much as you write? This is meant to be a serious question, I only ask because I know people that have had some similar experience to enlightenment perhaps, and they stutter now and have difficulty functioning in society all together. They can only do so much in the outside world and I think they would have rather have never gone there. I think it's interesting that your experience was well worth the price to you, exactly what have you given up that cost so much?

It was just the cost of going through the struggles of life - in many ways these were largely semi-subconsciously added. Lots of drives and pressures to excel at various things - not everything, some things I didn't really care about but others I just had to push the envelope and I think there were actually a lot of personal reasons for it because of the way so many things lined up.

Kind of like finding your purpose in life and it might be similar to a bias in DNA and sort of getting the combination right. Though a lot of cultural and social things are in there too, so it could be that the experience is built in, but the specific reasons for it or insights gained are dependent upon individual experiences or even "prototypes" existing the culture.

Basically, there are common elements present in most any decent storyline. A good author has a better intuition regarding these and both an author as well as a reading might not be able to pin these down precisely but there still exist these shared elements and they can be more or less subconscious and there are many of these in life. The experience for me similar to having both something very emotionally in touch with those that was able to bring them to the surface as well as a very efficient intelligence see them and generate solutions for how their interactions are best served, though a lot of these were also things that were things at a metaphysical level - kind of like if you had to start from the ground up and build the best possible set of experiences, what would they look like and it was just layers and layers of multiplicative or exponential growth in possibilities - being able to see where the best experiences lie, and so it was similarly layers and layers of emotional bliss as well.

So really many of the conflicts in life are just investments in discovery these ultimate forms of happiness - you begin with everything messed up, but as you find the problems and see how they can be fixed and how things should be.

And when it finally all fits together and is complete, you experience the understanding of it and you've already done the work getting there, it more than pays back for the work it took to get there. There's little less reason to live in the past after that because it's now and the future that are so much more beautiful. The past was just something to go through to reach that state and not very important beyond that - though similarly you could say that it's that amalgamation and refinement of the past that holds all the value.

[SteveA]

Here's a suggestion in finding it yourself, Sally.

If there was some "inner Sally" that you've been hiding, how beautiful would she be? What would the world love and enjoy in that "inner Sally"? Think about that and find all the best things in yourself and see how beautiful that can be ... you may find it quite surprising. If not, you might still have some work to do or some fears to overcome etc., but I think when you find her, you'll really really like her

[sillysally]

The experience of enlightenment feels EXACTLY THE SAME as saving a bunch of money on your car insurance.

I know that feeling, it's even better when you pay cash for your car, all your tickets are clear and you get the state minimum requirements. My husband and I only pay $200 a year, for both of us.

[sillysally]

(Good dump?)

It may be metaphorical now that you express it this way. I really can't stand all these cords. At least my keyboard and mouse are wireless.

Good question Sally.

Thanks.

[sillysally]

No thank you Steve, I think the results are a lot more depressing than what you say.

[Profpat]

It feels like the action or state of attaining or having attained spiritual knowledge or insight, in particular (in Buddhism) that awareness which frees a person from the cycle of rebirth.
No, not really, but that what the dictionary said.

Thats a good definition Austin, it just lacks description as to the feeling when this spiritual knowledge and insight enters you. Remember this isn't through studying or logic that you came upon enlightenment, but rather through PURE AWARENESS INSTILLED IN YOU.

BTW My spiritual knowledge and insight is that: 1) THERE IS A PERSONAL LOVING GOD and 2) ALL IS A SELF CREATED ILLUSION.

What spiritual knowledge and insight did you receive Austin at that moment of enlightenment.

Best,

Pat

[labelwench]

Labelwench does not claim to be enlightened, although I spend considerable time illuminated by artificial light and by natural light. Does that count?

However, I do believe I may have had a revealing insight.....

It has occurred to me that the T.O.E. forum, is really an on-line therapy venue.

Robert has been very clever in establishing a venue with the central 'purpose' of seeking the Theory Of Everything, and the many forums that allow for different avenues of approach.

It's absolutely brilliant, what he's done.

How many people are going to admit that they could use some therapy? Public stigma and all that....

And if one were willing and amenable to treatment, where would one find a therapist and who would pick up the tab?

Use as a draw, a thought common to all, and allow free access. People 'check themselves in and out' on their own reconnaisance, and can choose the forum(s) or 'therapy' that most pleases them.

No one is any the wiser, and I'm guessing by the timing of the postings and the true confessions of some, that gainful employment is paying for at least a portion of this 'treatment.' Finally, an actual benefit for some employees, who may have no other coverage.

Wonder what Robert gets out of this? Do you suppose he's a therapist?

Some interesting conversations in this locale. Definitely travels to the fringes and back of beyond.....We are all either as crazy as the proverbial outhouse rat, or lucid beyond anyone's wildest dreams.....

No disrespect intended for any of those beings who have actually experienced enlightenment.

For myself, until that time, I shall content myself with just 'seeing the light'.

As ever,

Lorrina