Living in The Lie- Living-Intelligent-Energy.

[mkirkpatrick]

We are all living in the lie,which stands for Living Intelligent Energy,we are lie-rs! The question has been asked many times down through the ages,who are we! What are we! And where did we come from? I cannot claim to answer all these questions,but prehaps point out a possible idea.

Consciousness is the field in which we express our unfolding energy in,we are in fact pure energy,and both relative and absolute simultaneousy,our outer form is relative and changes and eventually decays,and our inner being is absolute and eternal,we need to relearn how to realise the inner reality,and ignore the outer pretense at what the mind calls real,which is the relative existence.

We are caught in the unreal use of words such as "About" we talk about life and overlook the obvious that we are LIFE ITS Very self,there is no about to it,WE are IT! We are not bodies with souls,we are in fact souls with bodies,a very real and important difference.

It is the same with truth,if you talk "about" truth you are at once caught up in a deception for you are talking in a past tense when truth is ever present and eternal,the only way to understand truth is to litterly become it! This you can do by realising that you are indeed Living Intelligent Energy,which is truth itself expressed in form and realised through the consciousness,this is the doorway that leads to the understanding that all is one,and one is all,and all is Pure energy.

tbc.

regards michael.

[Graybeard]

Consciousness is the field in which we express our unfolding energy in,we are in fact pure energy,and both relative and absolute simultaneousy,our outer form is relative and changes and eventually decays,and our inner being is absolute and eternal,we need to relearn how to realise the inner reality,and ignore the outer pretense at what the mind calls real,which is the relative existence.

So glad I'm the first here ol' buddy ..... of course I disagree .... lolol

I hope Rajinder joins us here real soon .... like ol' times.

So good to see you again michael .... greg

[massfree]

Consciousness is the field in which we express our unfolding energy in,we are in fact pure energy,and both relative and absolute simultaneousy,our outer form is relative and changes and eventually decays,and our inner being is absolute and eternal,we need to relearn how to realise the inner reality,and ignore the outer pretense at what the mind calls real,which is the relative existence.

We are caught in the unreal use of words such as "About" we talk about life and overlook the obvious that we are LIFE ITS Very self,there is no about to it,WE are IT! We are not bodies with souls,we are in fact souls with bodies,a very real and important difference.

We may even be souls producing a body, producing life, producing thought -- a perpetual act of creation and not merely "having" a body or "witnessing" a mind... A true, active will-to-power determining the forces of existence, weaving the song of becoming....!

It is the same with truth,if you talk "about" truth you are at once caught up in a deception for you are talking in a past tense when truth is ever present and eternal,the only way to understand truth is to litterly become it! This you can do by realising that you are indeed Living Intelligent Energy,which is truth itself expressed in form and realised through the consciousness,this is the doorway that leads to the understanding that all is one,and one is all,and all is Pure energy.

tbc.

regards michael.

Not even "pure" or "impure" -- just simply Energy.
Saccidananda - blissful conscious-substance - as the yogis (or Spinoza) might say.

If consciousness is a field phenomenon, then it, too, is merely a form of (massfree) Energy!

Love

[Drifter]

We are all living in the lie,which stands for Living Intelligent Energy,we are lie-rs! The question has been asked many times down through the ages,who are we! What are we! And where did we come from? I cannot claim to answer all these questions,but prehaps point out a possible idea.

Consciousness is the field in which we express our unfolding energy in,we are in fact pure energy,and both relative and absolute simultaneousy,our outer form is relative and changes and eventually decays,and our inner being is absolute and eternal,we need to relearn how to realise the inner reality,and ignore the outer pretense at what the mind calls real,which is the relative existence.

We are caught in the unreal use of words such as "About" we talk about life and overlook the obvious that we are LIFE ITS Very self,there is no about to it,WE are IT! We are not bodies with souls,we are in fact souls with bodies,a very real and important difference.

It is the same with truth,if you talk "about" truth you are at once caught up in a deception for you are talking in a past tense when truth is ever present and eternal,the only way to understand truth is to litterly become it! This you can do by realising that you are indeed Living Intelligent Energy,which is truth itself expressed in form and realised through the consciousness,this is the doorway that leads to the understanding that all is one,and one is all,and all is Pure energy.

tbc.

regards michael.

Of course, I 'agree' with you Michael.I would only suggest that Consciousness is at once a movement with-in Awareness. and Unconciousness is pure and unadulterated Awareness. Once Awakened/stimulated by its own Nature within, Awareness becomes aware-consciousness, relative, and in the individual human form.
As above so below? That represents a shift for Awareness, 'coming into being', per-se.

[Drifter]

We may even be souls producing a body, producing life, producing thought -- a perpetual act of creation and not merely "having" a body or "witnessing" a mind... A true, active will-to-power determining the forces of existence, weaving the song of becoming....!



Not even "pure" or "impure" -- just simply Energy.
Saccidananda - blissful conscious-substance - as the yogis (or Spinoza) might say.

If consciousness is a field phenomenon, then it, too, is merely a form of (massfree) Energy!

Love

Wouldn't that Consciousness be formlessness as mass free Energy or Consciousness without an object [ like thought]?
Do thoughts have weight and take up space? I'd have to say yes, they do, but the weight cannot be measured, nor the gravity/inertia [power] they exert over matter?
We take them for granted, like Descartes. We can't deny that we are.
Peace, Love and Equnimity.

Being, Consciousness, Bliss [Satchitananda], happens when we, Awaken To The Dream, that we are all seperate and limited individuals.
Different waves upon the Ocean of Oneness, the waves are not different than the Ocean, they are the Ocean It Self-Appearing as waves.

[Graybeard]

Consciousness is the field in which we express our unfolding energy in,we are in fact pure energy,and both relative and absolute simultaneousy,our outer form is relative and changes and eventually decays,and our inner being is absolute and eternal

..... of course I disagree ....

Of course, I 'agree'

rotflmao ......... Hi Drift, you've found a powerful ally here mate.

cool bananas ... greg

[Meem]

long time sir. You know, I saw a display of energy of some sort tonight. Was outside looking at the sky, and dusk was almost totally overcome by night. I happened to look at a hard 10/9 in the sky. When I turned my head I saw a fairly large and bright white light. No sooner than I had looked in its direction, it faded out and moved across the sky somewhat slowly. It appeared or seemed to me, to be extremely far away. Too far away for the idea I had ... that it could be an airplane flying directly at me with its headlights on. But, it seemed too bright and when it dimmed or went out (bright white light) there were no wing/belly flashers. However there was a persistent and very dim glow. I think I could have counted out 10 or 15 seconds or so before losing it to a near by cloud. I've seen lots of shooting stars and some fireballs, all very different than this. If it were the space station or something like that, it would make no sense for it to dim because it maintains an orbit and stuff. I really do not know what exactly I saw ...

But even if I saw nothing, being I saw something internally-hallucinated, or something ...
in either case it appears to be a lie, in my opinion.

[austintorn@aol.com]

I cannot claim to answer all these questions…

Ah, now that is true.

[Drifter]

long time sir. You know, I saw a display of energy of some sort tonight. Was outside looking at the sky, and dusk was almost totally overcome by night. I happened to look at a hard 10/9 in the sky. When I turned my head I saw a fairly large and bright white light. No sooner than I had looked in its direction, it faded out and moved across the sky somewhat slowly. It appeared or seemed to me, to be extremely far away. Too far away for the idea I had ... that it could be an airplane flying directly at me with its headlights on. But, it seemed too bright and when it dimmed or went out (bright white light) there were no wing/belly flashers. However there was a persistent and very dim glow. I think I could have counted out 10 or 15 seconds or so before losing it to a near by cloud. I've seen lots of shooting stars and some fireballs, all very different than this. If it were the space station or something like that, it would make no sense for it to dim because it maintains an orbit and stuff. I really do not know what exactly I saw ...

But even if I saw nothing, being I saw something internally-hallucinated, or something ...
in either case it appears to be a lie, in my opinion.

Humbling isn't it.
(stop smokin' those blunts) lol

[melanie]

I really do not know what exactly I saw ...

But even if I saw nothing, being I saw something internally-hallucinated, or something ...
in either case it appears to be a lie, in my opinion.

What you saw is actually nothing Meem.

Your brain tricks you into believing what's out-there is really real, but they are just images that flash on and off your screen of awareness,
which is also nothing.
You think you see something real, but its all hallucination that's all. When you close your eyes, all images are gone.
Images are absent before you are born - likewise they are absent when your dead.
So who is seeing images ? Consciousness is. Consciousness is the contents of Consciousness = ZERO pretty neat trick huh?
It's the trickless trick.

Take a look at this image as an example of what i'm trying to say ....You see something there, but its only illusion, its not really there.
It's similar to an hallucination, in fact that's exactly what it is.
This reality is a pretty convincing illusion is it not?