[Guille]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick It is the other way around Amigo,the relative,does not exist,in REAL terms,only that Which is,eternal,infinite,and by the way,Absolute,exists ,yours and mine relative universe,is all an ILLUSION,albeit a very real "appearing" one??? kindest regards michael.

What do you mean, are you criticizing my claim that space, time, energy... are not infinite, or that asserting that these are not relative, or something else?

[Mohan.C]

when we can measure something it can't be infinite. Space, time, energy can't be infinite. well we can measure it, can't we?

Guille,

I don't get your distinction between infinity and infinite. Infinity is like a number which we use to count infinite. Just like 1 to count one apple. So neither infinity or infinite can exist.

[michellemfry]

Infinity just might be a place where one finds an infinite number. And please allow me to add it is, must be, neither infinity nor the infinite can exist. Should the universe decide to up your blessing count to infinite, your mind might be persuaded to change in the most gentle of ways. Oh, well, call me a bit of dreamer....

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by michellemfry Infinity just might be a place where one finds an infinite number. And please allow me to add it is, must be, neither infinity nor the infinite can exist. Should the universe decide to up your blessing count to infinite, your mind might be persuaded to change in the most gentle of ways. Oh, well, call me a bit of dreamer....

Ok then Michelle.as long as you
dont call me late for dinner!

regards michael.

[Mohan.C]

Originally Posted by michellemfry Infinity just might be a place where one finds an infinite number. And please allow me to add it is, must be, neither infinity nor the infinite can exist. Should the universe decide to up your blessing count to infinite, your mind might be persuaded to change in the most gentle of ways. Oh, well, call me a bit of dreamer....

Michelle,

If we can count upto infinity then it is not infinity at all is that what you are trying to tell. Well then i will agree with the fact that number of universe is not infinite when we count them.

[harmonygirl]

Mohan, I agree. Infinity is a concept, just as zero is a concept.

[Mohan.C]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl Mohan, I agree. Infinity is a concept, just as zero is a concept.

The problem with this concept is that it is just conceptual nothing can be done using this concept. But...but.. why worry about it?

[harmonygirl]

I'm not sure that nothing can be done using it. Practically speaking it represents a limit. Just because we can't get there doesn't mean it doesn't exist (kind of like andromeda...). When we develop hypotheses, it is an important consideration.

[Mohan.C]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl I'm not sure that nothing can be done using it. Practically speaking it represents a limit. Just because we can't get there doesn't mean it doesn't exist (kind of like andromeda...). When we develop hypotheses, it is an important consideration.

You can see andromeda, but infinite distance is that distance which places a limit to experience any kind of its presence ie. the presence of infinity. Yes I do agree infinity is a limit.

[manikgup]

i think that the universes are rolled and scrambled to each other. this explains the curled dimensions of the string theory