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View Poll Results: Where are the other universes
There are no others 17 26.56%
Separated by the void 4 6.25%
Parallel to us 19 29.69%
Curled up within our own 10 15.63%
Somewhere else (please explain) 14 21.88%
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Re: Where are the other universes? - 11-15-2007, 01:16 AM

Thank you Pat and greetings to all once again.
As you know, i theorized that black holes are the agent of other universes, not parrellel, but something else entirely. Gravity, which traps light in the Black Hole becomes even more intensified until it reaches a point where matter is broken down into its constituant forms and then is turned to energy. Much more efficient to store. The energy so contained continues to build until it can not hold anymore. Radiation begins to bleed out of it, energy, until the little strings of energy are ready to erupt.
There is a triggering mechanism that releases that energy and since it can't come out past the event horizon it has to go deeper into itself until it explodes creating another universe and another big bang. It leaves no trace of this explosion on this side since it punches its way through whatever lies beyond this universe.
there are currently signs that a few are ready to go, and quasars, which radiate more enegy than galaxies, are the tell tale sign. The only thing that can radiate that much energy is a Black Hole and it also explains why there seems to be less matter than for this universe to come back on itself.
Well, i've taken up enough time and space here (grin).
take care all and be safe

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Re: Where are the other universes? - 11-17-2007, 02:09 AM

I guess I must choose #5.
Other. With explanation.

This is a membrane similar to that described by M theory.

http://unit-unity-community.com/the-membrane.htm

additional information about this membrane.

It is bounded by the void.
The Void is NOTHING. This is not like empty space. you can not put anything here as there is no place to put. This would be like space without time, Like a solid.
Space is the result of the gradity field.
Space is a place for matter to be.

The membrane is the result of the primary force, a field shaped as the force dictates. The field generates space from the gravity pole and time from the continue pole.
Continue is also the constant that allows life to be seen as the result of a force. Life is the resulting image of this primary force. This image is one single force. The image of this force is also 1 single organism. All of life is one single organism. We eat of the body and drink of the blood of this body of the image of the divine force.
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Re: Where are the other universes? - 11-17-2007, 08:05 AM

Hi John;

Where does space expand into if not the void?

I am a big bang advocate and thought that is where space went. Now granted once space invaded the void it would no longer be void, but rather space, and so the void, by definition would always be void.


If you don't believe in the big bang you may not have a problem with inflation and expansion.

Best to you,

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Re: Where are the other universes? - 11-17-2007, 11:22 AM

Hi Pat:
First I must say thank you for the question, as it is the first time that ANYONE asked a pertinent question about any of the fundamental parts of my thoughts.

The appearance of the expansion of the universe is the result of the shape of the membrane. Think of it like the fabric of timespace. If time and space are the result of separate poles they do not travel along the same field lines within the fabric. The normal shape of the membrane causes the time lines to expand relative to the space lines this causes the appearance of the expansion of time or the contraction of space. In one place on the membrane while at the next point on the membrane the reverse happens. The effect is much like the warping of the fabric by a large mass. The difference is that it is a symmetrical shaping of the membrane that causes this. At one point I explained how to make a model of the membrane with the band of paper and the twist. If you look at this model as I described it. On that band, the space lines begin at the edge on the bottom then the next one up will be a time line until you get to the top as this will be a time line. while looking at the word Eden. Note the edge is a single dimensional track of its own. But the edge becomes the first line on the plane. Now if the band is twisted it will cause either the time to expand relative to the space or the reverse depending on the point on this wave. In the model that I described if you follow the direction of the arrow the space line on the bottom is expanded and the time line on the top is contracted. If you follow the twist a bit further you will see that the reverse of this is true. It is like a wave one part will expand while another part contracts. If we were able to look back in the direction of the micro the reverse should be the case. The space should be contracting and the time expanding causing a curl with the time on the outside and the space on the inside of the curl.

The direction of this curl caused by the uncertainty principal is a prediction. As I have no information as to the specifics of the actual direction of this curl or non linearity. If it were to be found to be the reverse it would require a revision. This is a point on the membrane that we have little or no access to. Also it is very difficult to imagine how to look at this from a perspective of 3 dimensional time and 1 dimensional space. As this point on the membrane can only be observed from this point. You can not turn around to look back at the micro from where we are. All things move in the direction of the arrows.

In both cases the final result is a reversal of the poles so as to result with 3d time and 1d space within Elsewhen. Followed by another twist that returns to what we are familiar with. So the alternate existence medium is both in series with and parallel to each other at the same time.
You must also understand that there is a reversal of the poles that takes place at these points so it can be that both are expanding or contracting relative to our present condition. But the expansion or contraction will be faster or slower on the one indicated to account for the non linearity between time and space.

This shaping of the membrane may be at the basis of many observations.
There is no true expansion, just a wave or warp where the membrane turns back on itself.
Note also that this apparent expansion can appear to be accelerating or decelerating without the need for a cause other than the shape of the membrane.

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Re: Where are the other universes? - 11-17-2007, 12:29 PM

Hi. I'm from the universe of truth.
What universes do you all come from?
I think it is nice that we have this forum to share our universes with each other, don't you?
Because of this forum, I am starting to believe that their are universes inhabited with theoretical green one eyed aliens with advanced and complex knowledges, are you?
It's the progress of unity or TOE. I guess.
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Re: Where are the other universes? - 11-17-2007, 01:43 PM

Here is another guess for you to play with MJA.

Actually I think we are the aliens. The ones with the large bald head and the big dark eyes were around this universe long before mankind was. If and when we ever get to space we will walk among these angels that have already spread across the galaxy.

The stealth technology was stolen from them.
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Re: Where are the other universes? - 11-22-2007, 12:39 AM

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What universes do you all come from?
Define "universe." The point I'm trying to make is that if one believes in the multiverse picture, then one would not be able to travel between universes in the multiverse. Thus, to talk of aliens from another universe contacting us would not make any sense.


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Re: Where are the other universes? - 11-22-2007, 01:08 PM

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Define "universe." The point I'm trying to make is that if one believes in the multiverse picture, then one would not be able to travel between universes in the multiverse. Thus, to talk of aliens from another universe contacting us would not make any sense.
Hi N,

We each have our own perception of the universe, some believe in aliens, some in fermions, quarks, leptons, and bosons. Some in God or Gods.
What universe are you from?
I come from a universe of simple truth, where all is equal, all is one.
I see and experience many other parrallel universes along with my own.
For me to try and understand other universes, is but a quantum leap.
My universe is my truth.
Is there a true universe you might ask.
I would answer absolutely and certaintly: yes!
What universe do you know, can you explain?

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Re: Where are the other universes? - 01-14-2008, 01:05 PM

'One Verse' (Universe).

Any 'others', are part of the atonement (at-one-ment).

There are no other universes.

A plural universe is a non-sequitur.

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Re: Where are the other universes? - 04-18-2008, 12:12 AM

There are an infinite number of universes 'parallel' because velocity has no bounds, only 'C' does. Those universes with a relative velocity of their fabric (what the 'loops' are connected to) greater than 'C' pass us by with no real obversable effect.
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