[melanie]

Originally Posted by G_burnett

What is love Melanie but one side of a coin called awareness, the side that has the words likable awareness on it ...
when the likable awareness is greater then the despicable awareness or with no despicable awareness one can call that love ... foolish term applied though.

Hello Graham ...Love and Hate are both one and the same, both and neither.
''You'' are the awareness in which love & hate arises.
Hate is just the chaos 'we' don't like, but it is only love in disguise.


"Once you remember who you are,
a Divine Being of the Universal Light of Grace,
then you can no longer see others the same,
for they too are a Divine piece of the same source."

Do you then preach we should all ignore what we do not like? Stand in the face of death and say I love you? ... go ahead an kill me?

Graham, surely if there is something we do not like, then we can change it to something we do like.
It will take a long time for people to realize their divinity, but surely one by one they will, and until they do, they will follow their own will, and not natures will.
Natures will is in natural harmony with itself.
Man is in the fortunate position now where he has the capacity to realize his origin/source.
But sadly S/he chooses to be separate from the whole.Did the human brain get too big?
We can't stop the world, as it is, IT is as it should be because we like it that way, otherwise we would change it.
The world ''out there'' is a reflection of what is '' in here'' [OUR THOUGHTS]
The world is a reflection of our collective thoughts.
If we imagine we are separate then we will fight for what we think is ours alone.
And yet nothing is our property. We are born with nothing and we die with nothing.We come from nothing and return to nothing.
All the stuff in between, IS really nothing ''appearing'' as something.
It is only man who makes up the conceptual universe, makes up religions and forming hierarchies.
Apparently religion is the biggest divisive factor encouraging division of the peoples and main contributer to all wars.
And yet sometimes even the noblest kings must go to war.
It is part and parcel of our reality.
The real route to peace is in tolerance and intellectual honesty.
We don't all have to like each other as long as we accept the fundamental right of everyone to believe in what we perceive to be ridiculous ideas.
We also have to agree to not promote our belief based ideas as fact,
we have to doubt ourselves, and that goes for the empirical science gurus too.


"Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend"

As long as there realists Mel you are in a world of your own denial choosing to turn a blind eye upon the need of change
and the better way to do it and add to carnage and body bags that come home.

"When the power of love
overcomes the love of power,
the world will know peace


"I believe that unarmed truth and unconditional Love,
will have the final word in reality"


"Love is a gift of one's inner most soul to another, so both can be wholer"


Sorry about all the quotes Graham, but i find them very soothing and they can remind us of who we REAL_ly are amid our ''apparent'' troubled world.

Namaste
melanie.

[melanie]

Originally Posted by Mikal

To all in this thread

possibly would afew people like to put me in front of a firing squad,


Mikal

Do not point the gun if you can't take the bullets.

''We'' are all in this together as ONE .....''apparently''

[Mikal]

I would never own a gun...I have peace in my heart....bullets are for bullys and you know there are metaphorical guns and some people are quite expertise to level them at another person....peace might say...."whisper, don't yell".....think about it....


Mikal

[melanie]

Originally Posted by melanie

Do not point the gun if you can't take the bullets.

''We'' are all in this together as ONE .....''apparently''

http://www.youtube.com/v/T1D3ejwQiVg&amp


Rapture_ Just a mass awakening to God/Creation/Heaven. Eternal Life _Here_Now_NoW_Here

They won't know where to point the gun.

Just reporting my surround.

Namaste
melanie.

[melanie]

Originally Posted by Mikal

"whisper, don't yell".....think about it....


Mikal

I've thought about it....


''Yelling'' = '' Misery Self '' Passion Play playing a role here.

Some broken hearts never mend.. Don't believe( ACCEPT ) IT

MY Love for You will never die. He has risen.


Namaste
melanie.

[melanie]

Originally Posted by melanie

This is the World Wide Web where people are connecting.
Where the Global Consciousness meets as ONE.

Leskey:
This - this place, this medium, this thread, whatever - is NOT life.

''
''Threads''

''
Combining the tapestry of LIFE.

''

THE WORLD WIDE WEB = GOD.

IT never stops spinning......IT spins itself FROM out of itself.



FROM SOURCE TO SOURCE.......AN ENDLESS SPRING.

''


THE SONS EXPAND AND CONTRACT THROUGH THEIR OWN SELVES AND HEARTS, THEY EMBRACE INFINITUDE.
EACH IN TURN A PART OF THE WEB.
REFLECTING THE “SELF-EXISTENT LORD” LIKE A MIRROR,
EACH BECOMES IN TURN A WORLD.


Namaste
melanie.

[Drifter]

Originally Posted by Graybeard

Hi Drift ... haven't looked at your latest links yet. Just replying to your earlier posts.

Your logic is faulty. Reread it and hopefully you will see why. Its subjective to your first rule .... and therefore



no offence .... cool bananas ... greg

Which is more real for you greg, the material or the immaterial, the seen or the unseen?

The context in which the argument is embedded is not an intellectual exercise, it is an exalted state of prayer or contemplation, a plea by Adams sons, condemned to a life of wrechedness and misery, to be allowed to approach the world of the divine. Anselm was a man of deep faith; he had no doubts about the existence of God, his certainty was unshakeable. But his faith was - in accordance with the orignal title of the treatise in which the Ontilogical Argument appears - a 'Faith in Search of Understanding'. For although reason does not produce faith, although faith preceeds reason, reason is essential in order to illuminate the the content of faith one has already accepted: To bring it to its fullness and thus open the way to "God".

Namaste`
D.

[melanie]

Faith.
Faith is a state of openness or trust.
To have faith is to trust yourself to the water.
When you swim you don't grab hold of the water, because if you do you will sink and drown.
Instead you relax, and float.
And the attitude of faith is the very opposite of clinging to belief, of holding on.
In other words, a person who is fanatic in matters of religion,
and clings to certain ideas about the nature of God and the universe, becomes a person who has no faith at all.
Instead they are holding tight.
But the attitude of faith is to let go, and become open to truth, whatever it might turn out to be.

Water U talkin bout ??

Mother Earth 95% water .....after all SHE'S a big girl.
Mother breaks water .. gives birth to creation.
You are that.....

SHE is Love .....Welcome to heaven..... where our waters meet .....where U turn.....To SEE ...after mem_brain breaks.

Our own human mother ..we put our trust in. She raised you good.
Now we must trust in our original mother.
SHE loves us.......Look ...how are we treating her??

[Drifter]

Originally Posted by David Maes

You know, I don't really care about god.
But if he would exist, I wouldn't like him. Because if he would exist, he would be a supernatural spirit that guides us. And because there is a lot of suffering in the world, I don't like his way of guiding.

In case he would not be a supernatural spirit that guides us, but something else, then I care even less about him.

The glass will always be half-empty or half-full. The only difference is 'your' perspective of it. Change your mind, change your world. It's the only choice 'you have',and it is 'yours' alone.

"God, Grant me
The Serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The Courage to change the things I can and,
The Wisdom to know the difference."

Our Father who art in Heaven
Hallowed be Thy name
Thy Kingdom come
Thy will Be done
On Earth as it is
In Heaven.

In My Heart
there burns a Flame,
and it's a Holy Fire . . .
How I long to Be with Him . . .
and That's My One Desire,
Oft within That Holy Place
and kneeling at His Throne . . .
He Is Always There for me
and I Am not Alone.


Namaste`
D.

[Drifter]

Originally Posted by David Maes

You know, I don't really care about god.
But if he would exist, I wouldn't like him. Because if he would exist, he would be a supernatural spirit that guides us. And because there is a lot of suffering in the world, I don't like his way of guiding.

In case he would not be a supernatural spirit that guides us, but something else, then I care even less about him.

Like two Golden Birds perched in the self-same Tree
The Ego and The True Self, intimate friends and inseperable,
The Former partakes of the sweet and the bitter fruits of Tree of Life
While the latter looks on
In Deatchment. ~The Mundaka Upanishad