[harmonygirl]

David, would it really matter what you defined as relative? As long as there is an abosolute to distinguish it from, the term relative is, well,.......relative, I guess. However you define relative, you define absolute in distinction to it. Can we be both at the same time, ie, can you be you (within your skin or mind or whatever) and harmonize with the universe also?

[David Maes]

i think you're right Harmonygirl; i.e. another demonstration of intuition.

Everything seems to have its own mathematics and still it's complementary.

"I" eat, drink, breath. It seems "I" am connected to the environnement. Still "I" experience myself as a separated individual, a separated whole; but i think that's an illusion, "I" am just connected with the rest of the world. In the microworld "I" probably don't even exist...

When observers would be as small as an atom; except probably for a few excentric mathematicans, they probably wouldn't even know "I" exist.

This "I"-awareness is caused by the fact that senses are focussed on the world we experience; probably transmitted by pre-human ancestors. This experienced world is a world which exists on its own; but is carried by the microworld.

In the microworld nothing is permanent, there is permanent change. By the fact that our reality is carried by the microworld, we experience this also in our reality.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl David, would it really matter what you defined as relative? As long as there is an abosolute to distinguish it from, the term relative is, well,.......relative, I guess. However you define relative, you define absolute in distinction to it. Can we be both at the same time, ie, can you be you (within your skin or mind or whatever) and harmonize with the universe also?

I would that is an affirmitive Harmony,You can indeed be at one with the
physical manifested world,and also be at one with the universal.


kind regards michael.

[KAC]

There is the Permanent Illusion. This is Samsara. With Samsara all is change, and change is permanent. All is impermanent in Samsara. All is transitory in Samsara.

There is Permanence in the self without the ego. For it is not within Samsara, but is without.

The truth, while in Samsara is outside of it, defining the permanent illusion that we call home.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by KAC There is the Permanent Illusion. This is Samsara. With Samsara all is change, and change is permanent. All is impermanent in Samsara. All is transitory in Samsara. There is Permanence in the self without the ego. For it is not within Samsara, but is without. The truth, while in Samsara is outside of it, defining the permanent illusion that we call home.

Iteresting my friend,the sound of one hand clapping is very similar.you know!
As the master said to chela,whom had agreed with all he said,did that "post"
in the field agree with me too?To which the chela replied,I do not know,
master,to which the master replied,then remain there,until you do!!!!

kind regards michael.

[David Maes]

"I" don't exist, but still I do.

[KAC]

I am that I am. If you are that I am, then we are that I am.

The self is the one, the ego is the desire to be many. When the ego leaves with the last breath of suffering, then all that is left is the one who is I am.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by KAC I am that I am. If you are that I am, then we are that I am. The self is the one, the ego is the desire to be many. When the ego leaves with the last breath of suffering, then all that is left is the one who is I am.

When the spider spins her web,is entrapment her intention?I am that!That am I!And that "I" is ubiquitous?And spins not a web!


kind regards michael

[David Maes]

The first and most important purpose of life is that it doesn't have one.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by David Maes The first and most important purpose of life is that it doesn't have one.

You mean that it is that important!David?

regards michael.