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You are reincarnated 20 14.39%
You are eaten by worms 31 22.30%
You go to heaven or hell 12 8.63%
You transcend to a higher plane of existence 24 17.27%
Other (please explain) 52 37.41%
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We shall go, you in your way and I in mine...
I shall love you and your way and you shall love me and mine...
We shall be strong this way...
For no man seeing our separateness shall break our TOGETHERNESS...

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To anyone, in general,

We all have spirit, consciousness, mind, heart (emotion), soul, memory, self, associations, learning, drives, vision, imagination, reasoning, feelings—they are all in the brain.

The brain is a fabulous organ; you use it all the time for EVERYTHING…

How little trust you have of what is already there that you make faith up in what is not there (and invisible) to do the same exact job already done by the brain…

Discoveries are pouring in lately, of how the brain does what you swore [for some very odd reason] it could never do…

It was once thought that evil spirits caused mental and physical ills…

Now, we are learning, through brain mapping, how fear and all kinds of things work…

See latest Scientific American or Newsweek of two weeks ago or anyplace really…

The days of presumed magic are already ending.

(Please do not remove your brain in order to see what you have left; this could be dangerous.)
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The brain is a fabulous organ; you use it all the time for EVERYTHING…
It uses you.

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I agree with your overall principle.

But this is simply word play, austin.

Faith is simply trusting the brain.

Faith is just being there is no separate 'self' to make things up, except in the dream of separation.
There is just ''Self'' being all.

Faith is simply letting go of the assumed 'i' and allowing life to flow through you as you.
To Be rather than Do

Doing is done, No doer thereof.

The magic appears as many surprises,
manifesting effortlessly when there is total trust in life's natural unfolding.

We are saying the same things austin, just differently.


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I was not aware of the moment when
I first crossed the threshold of this life.
What was the power that made me
open out into this vast mystery
like a bud in the forest at midnight!

When in the morning I looked upon
the light I felt in a moment that I was
no stranger in this world
that the inscrutable without name and form
had taken me in its arms
in the form of my own mother

Even so, in death the same unknown
will appear as ever known to me
And because I love this life
I know I shall love death as well

The child cries out when from the right breast
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in the same moment to find in the left one
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The Gnostics stated..."Between the breathing in and out lies all the mysteries of life." Possibly this is why so much knowledge and wisdom is attained throughout an NDE...


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The mystery imho is, Death. Therefore the teachings of The Resurrection body.
1 Corinthians 15:35-55; The very heart and soul of the Bible imho, "If Ye be of those who perceive it."

So too, The Out-Of-Body Experience.imhe

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Our body is wounded by physical harm.
Our souls cry out in torment from emotions of crushing grief and unfathomable disbelief.
Love is the spiritual medicine that cures our woes in its eternal embrace.
Such is the love of humankind and fellowman.
Spirit looks on, in Deatchment.

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To anyone, in general,

We all have spirit, consciousness, mind, heart (emotion), soul, memory, self, associations, learning, drives, vision, imagination, reasoning, feelings—they are all in the brain.

The brain is a fabulous organ; you use it all the time for EVERYTHING…

How little trust you have of what is already there that you make faith up in what is not there (and invisible) to do the same exact job already done by the brain…

Discoveries are pouring in lately, of how the brain does what you swore [for some very odd reason] it could never do…

It was once thought that evil spirits caused mental and physical ills…

Now, we are learning, through brain mapping, how fear and all kinds of things work…

See latest Scientific American or Newsweek of two weeks ago or anyplace really…

The days of presumed magic are already ending.

(Please do not remove your brain in order to see what you have left; this could be dangerous.)
A Dream Within A Dream

Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
Thus much let me avow-


You are not wrong, who deem
That my days have been a dream;
Yet if hope has flown away
In a night, or in a day,
In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.

I stand amid the roar
Of a surf-tormented shore,
And I hold within my hand
Grains of the golden sand-
How few! yet how they creep
Through my fingers to the deep,
While I weep- while I weep!
O God! can I not grasp
Them with a tighter clasp?
O God! can I not save
One from the pitiless wave?
Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?

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The hypothesis of an invisible God as the Supreme Deity is unnecessary. In order to explain the existence of the universe, the invisible God is invoked.

Now, we have merely extended the chain of causality from explaining the universe to explaining the existence of God. Not only do we have another entity to explain, we have to explain how the new entity God has any relevance to the creation of the universe. God, therefore, explains nothing. (from reading Huck)
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The mystery imho is, Death. Therefore the teachings of The Resurrection body.
1 Corinthians 15:35-55; The very heart and soul of the Bible imho, "If Ye be of those who perceive it."

So too, The Out-Of-Body Experience.imhe

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"AWARENESS" aka "GOD", imho, does not have to survive death, because it cannot die.
That imhe, is our "Brilliant Virtue." ~Zen Master Bankei

To become one with it,imhe, is our purpose.imhe


Christians believe that if Jesus Christ had wished to come down from the cross he could have done so easily; he died of his own free-will becuase it was witten that he should, in order that the prophesies might be fulfilled.

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To anyone, in general,

We all have spirit, consciousness, mind, heart (emotion), soul, memory, self, associations, learning, drives, vision, imagination, reasoning, feelings—they are all in the brain.

The brain is a fabulous organ; you use it all the time for EVERYTHING…

How little trust you have of what is already there that you make faith up in what is not there (and invisible) to do the same exact job already done by the brain…

Discoveries are pouring in lately, of how the brain does what you swore [for some very odd reason] it could never do…

It was once thought that evil spirits caused mental and physical ills…

Now, we are learning, through brain mapping, how fear and all kinds of things work…

See latest Scientific American or Newsweek of two weeks ago or anyplace really…

The days of presumed magic are already ending.

(Please do not remove your brain in order to see what you have left; this could be dangerous.)
Hi Austie....I know you do not understand the experiences I have had throughout my life but I would ask you to respect the fact that it has been my experience and the truth which holds up my life. I know you think that the brain is and does everything but I have never been able to align with the idea that I am just my brain...I feel that I have alot more substance to that which I see as myself than just a bunch of neurons running around in my head. I also believe that Science does not have all the answers to life and more than likely will never....just as there is a mystery in the Atom..I think there is a mystery in life itself...



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