[dleviwing]

Faith answers nothing Benny; it only allows the ignorant sheep to be lead by the predatory wolves.

[Infinite Consciousness]

Originally Posted by Benny Chin

I believe religion is simply a venue for us (and beings similar to us) to express something which we do not know what we are talking about, to satisfy ourselves that we do have a complete picture of everything. I think we should respect this forum to be about Theory of Everything physical (which includes things which have not been found physical. May be 'life' after death is physical, who knows. For now life and death is a religious matter for me, in the future may be not.) As we know more, the diversity of religious believes narrows but there will always be something left which only faith can answer. End of my blurb.

Benny Chin, I think you need to read the post "Materialism As An Absolute" and the book Quantum Motion by Shan Gao.

Quantum Mechanics and Panpsychism

Gao Shan
Institute of Electronics, Chinese Academy of Sciences
LongZeYuan 24-3-501, ChangPing District, Beijing
102208, P.R.China

[mkirkpatrick]

All operates under natural law,these laws are absolute and perfect in operation,all is under law,whether you know it or not,accept it or not,it is absolutely irrelevent what we
believe or doubt,the universal law operates period.

And the universal law is life itself,the very life of life,death is a word that just means
change and grow,expand,evolve,to motion within the evolutionary cycle.Our bodies are
just vehicles,vehicles of expression,when they have served their purpose,the body-vehicle is discarded,as one would do with worn out clothes,then when the soul seeks
further experience on this earth plane,it acquires another vehicle and is reborn again
of flesh.

All of us will experience this,and have done so many,many,times before,it is just that many cannot yet remember this fact of life.But there are also manywho can and do
remember,I can recall at least one previous life.

We can of course deny this universal basic reality,as many do,but it is to no avail,in the
end when they "die" they have the experience of finding out this fact,"first hand" and see
they are still here!there body may be in the grave,but they persist period!

regards michael.

[gautam]

Pl ask someone else since I am not there(dead) to answer this question.In fact I will not like to there when death comes.
ha.. ha..
thanx with apology
GAUTAM

[jim barlow]

Heaven
Whoever popularized this concept and however false as a promise it may sound its reality, as with many such things, stared me in the face where I least expected. Where? It is right here in front of our collective noses. There seem to be too many signs for this not to be the case and too familiar the criteria by which to judge. If it looks like a duck…
Heaven is then this spacetime in which we are talking to each other. Some reasons follow.
Nobody wants to leave here no matter how miserable. It can only mean that somewhere else is less attractive – to say the least.
You have to be sponsored by at least two people and you must wear a kind of uniform at all times. (This makes it look like a club.)
Everything obeys the law at all times. (These are physical laws with just a dash of chaos thrown in for variety.)
It has duration in Time, which makes the whole journey possible. Time is your bride here (or bridegroom)
And now the criterion for judgment…
While it is unreal, your passport is the self (ego, identity) which lets you enjoy the place. Just one very crude example: when they hang somebody YOU don’t feel a thing! While someone else starves YOU can eat all you want. (The one who starves doesn’t want to leave either.)
The possibility of an ego structure, its continuous release and rechrystallization (like breathing) is one of the chief criteria why this "timespace" allotted for the individual is so precious. We can create mischievous gods for ourselves and reproduce! Need I say more?

[dipayankar]

After you die, yor existance ends. Your body is either buried or it is burnt. Since there is nothing called as soul, only your memories remain.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by dipayankar

After you die, yor existance ends. Your body is either buried or it is burnt. Since there is nothing called as soul, only your memories remain.

Purely out of interest,is that what you believe,or is that what you know for sure absolutely.There is a big difference.

regards michael.

[michellemfry]

Every time I look to see what the Creator is doing in your life, I am like someone who checks their email to find 10,000 messages waiting, all expecting a response. Carry on and Godspeed.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by michellemfry

Every time I look to see what the Creator is doing in your life, I am like someone who checks their email to find 10,000 messages waiting, all expecting a response. Carry on and Godspeed.

i know the feeling well Michelle,good to see you back posting.


regards michael.

[dipayankar]

Nobody knows anything for sure. This is purely my belief and the interpretations of scientific studies..

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick

Purely out of interest,is that what you believe,or is that what you know for sure absolutely.There is a big difference.

regards michael.