This thread ain't dead.
('It's alive! It's alive!')
Neither the theists, agnostics or atheists have it.
Whereas, Graybeard and Austin may,
by iambic pentameters
and parametric diameters.
By Omar Khayam and mystics in Siam.
Then there is always room for what happens
after yer born and before you die.
(And this is soitinly a portion of that?)
Perhaps another haiku koan asking whether
one prefers gravy over potatos, or,
potatos under gravy.
Anyway, it's an age old question so, what the heck,
why not let the poll roll...
__________________ (George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.
"All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus "Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein "Particles give me a headache." - Ibid
Graybeard,
Also, how about "space" for the center of the pyramid?
earth(solid), fire(metabolic), water(liquid),
air(gaseous), and space(quantum mechanical)
Sincerely,
Empedocles
Just for you mate .......
cool bananas ... greg
__________________ 'Blondie says I must hate all Brunettes. I'll try, but if I can't ... I'll love them both' ... graffiti on Tavern wall, Pompeii, circa AD 70.
Lıfe as ıts name ımplıes ıs lıvıng.death ıs an ıllusıon.whıch wıll soon be proven enough for
even the hardest skeptıcs.Much research ıs goıng ınto near death experıences and soon
ıt wıll be establıshed that lıfe ıs contınues.and by ıts very nature ıs eternal.
Our bodıes are but tools that we use to express our souls.and provıde the gross and heavy dense elements needed to anchor the soul ın temporal space.so that evolutıonary
pressure can be exorcısed.?
regards mıchael.
__________________ Humilty,coupled with boldness,surprises truth to
reveal herself?
I think that near death experiences result from the brain losing its inputs, or no longer able to query them correctly.
It still tries to do its job, so it processes from memory in order to fill or manufacture the missing info.
cool bananas ... greg
__________________ 'Blondie says I must hate all Brunettes. I'll try, but if I can't ... I'll love them both' ... graffiti on Tavern wall, Pompeii, circa AD 70.
I think that near death experiences result from the brain losing its inputs, or no longer able to query them correctly.
It still tries to do its job, so it processes from memory in order to fill or manufacture the missing info.
cool bananas ... greg
gb;you claim to possess a scientific brain(or mind)then why bother about a hypothetical equation! pysical body perishes, so it perishes,what is so dramatical about it? if you are so serious about it----which you don't seem to be,otherwise you would have willingly taken on the 'propositions' of NOBODY (BREATHLESS-STATE) and IC's 'soul-realisation"! why are you so afraid or shy of it. take on the challenge and prove them wrong,not by flouting mere theories but going through the same regimen they 'recommend! be a support, tell the toe members about the shallowness of their claims by proving them wrong! wish you luck,because you will need it, as the regimen will prove to be an uphill task for a tender soul like you! love®ards.
ps.perhaps dear kid will also join you; two is a company angels love to 'play' with. (its a serious play, would you like to join it or ignore it to your inqusitive peril) science is a venture, get hold the opportunity. all are welcome. NOBODY & IC can provide all the inputs.
gb;you claim to possess a scientific brain(or mind)then why bother about a hypothetical equation! pysical body perishes, so it perishes,what is so dramatical about it?
Rajinder ... I was not referring to death itself ... but to near death experiences. A near death experience is a brain going into shutdown mode. This has been tested in the laboratory and found true. (I think ... at least on discovery channel it has)
Michael had said
that death is an illusion
which will soon be proven
for even the most hardened sceptics
Quote:
Originally Posted by r.p.bibra
if you are so serious about it----which you don't seem to be, otherwise you would have willingly taken on the 'propositions' of NOBODY (BREATHLESS-STATE) and IC's 'soul-realisation"!
Why are you so afraid or shy of it. take on the challenge and prove them wrong,not by flouting mere theories but going through the same regimen they 'recommend! be a support, tell the toe members about the shallowness of their claims by proving them wrong!
Wish you luck,because you will need it, as the regimen will prove to be an uphill task for a tender soul like you! love®ards.
Ps. perhaps dear kid will also join you; two is a company angels love to 'play' with. (its a serious play, would you like to join it or ignore it to your inqusitive peril) science is a venture, get hold the opportunity. all are welcome. NOBODY & IC can provide all the inputs.
I have had my days in the desert and the wilderness. I have visited shrines in Peshawar, burnt incense in Rangoon, but 'I always came out by the same door as in I went'.
If there is one reason I believe Science and physics to be right, exclusive to all other options it is the fossil record and what technology has bought to its understanding in the last 15 years. If you can disprove or show a flaw in these records then I am prepared to listen.
I did not mean to offend you ... greg
__________________ 'Blondie says I must hate all Brunettes. I'll try, but if I can't ... I'll love them both' ... graffiti on Tavern wall, Pompeii, circa AD 70.
Would you define it as “One” or the compositor of all matter? Ls lack the scientific terminology, which IC can fill in!love®ards.
"One minus the many, is absolutely impossible. One plus the many, is the highest probability, of the highest possibility, thus the only possibility___and the real universe, we actually live in..." me
Lloyd
__________________ "To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel "Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein "The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G. "The tick-tick-tick of the cesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.
Rajinder ... I was not referring to death itself ... but to near death experiences. A near death experience is a brain going into shutdown mode. This has been tested in the laboratory and found true. (I think ... at least on discovery channel it has)
Michael had said
that death is an illusion
which will soon be proven
for even the most hardened sceptics
I have had my days in the desert and the wilderness. I have visited shrines in Peshawar, burnt incense in Rangoon, but 'I always came out by the same door as in I went'.
If there is one reason I believe Science and physics to be right, exclusive to all other options it is the fossil record and what technology has bought to its understanding in the last 15 years. If you can disprove or show a flaw in these records then I am prepared to listen.
I did not mean to offend you ... greg
Greg; there is nothing to disprove, as everything you or the scientists have contributed to the knowledge bank of human intellect is highly appreciative and helpful in its elevation. If in spite all of your efforts, 'in burning of incense, visiting holy places'---which for the ls is a waste of time---there was, definitely, something amiss! The whole idea is to look inward instead of searching 'that' in the outside world, which is in our-self. If rationalists like NOBODY, IC and a layman like the ls could get the knack of ‘that’, why not you? As nature is the best guru for worldly sciences, Self is the best guru for inward ‘knowledge. No need to wander in the jungles, take to renunciation and wear ocher clothes, the answer is within. Ls understands a bit about ‘near-death-experiences’ as he has had too many close shaves with it. (Fast life has its ‘benefits’). No offence meant. Always at thy service friend! Love& regards. Ls.
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