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View Poll Results: What happens after you die?
You are reincarnated 20 14.39%
You are eaten by worms 31 22.30%
You go to heaven or hell 12 8.63%
You transcend to a higher plane of existence 24 17.27%
Other (please explain) 52 37.41%
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06-19-2007, 10:40 PM
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Nice timing IC ... as today is the anniversary of the 'Black Hole of Calcutta'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hole_of_Calcutta


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(This should resonate with everyone)

The Spirit of the Earth

They walked along the shore of the river. A breeze wandered by and played around with them, for it actually was a spirit, the Spirit of the Earth, about to reveal itself. The breeze swirled all around and caressed them, and a mist came off of the water to envelop them in its fog, wetting them as it touched them all over with a fine droplet spray. The sun’s warmth vibrated on their skin and they laid on the ground, snuggling onto the sand as the earth held them dear in its embrace. Soon the breeze, mist, heat, and earth coalesced into a spirit which spoke to them:

“I am the Spirit of the Earth,” it said. “I will tell you the story of the world.

“Near the beginning, long before space was knowable, Darkness stole most of Forever, and almost nothing was. All might have very well stayed this way, but, inborn in the Universe-to-be was the spirit of potential. Soon there was a silent ripple and a quiet rumble as Plus and Minus came forth from a near nothing and then separated, each being the opposite aspect of that which was one and the same. Therefore, everything still added up to pretty much a total zero, and would become as such again if Plus and Minus were ever to recombine. Plus went one way and Minus went another, and therefore the positive Universe was born; but, again, from nothing but potential it came and to nothing but potential it will someday have to amount.

“So, all became stable, and, at last, after many small eternities, a faint spirit of hope arrived from beyond the dim shadow of a dream: Life’s spirit had come forth from the energy and echoed into the vastness of the Void. I am that spirit of life—I now wear the clothes of past into future and matter and space.

“Many things then began to happen. As Nature’s undying flame, I lit up the Darkness with my Fire, sparking all that which must come into existence to embody my spirit. So it was that all around me was created the World.

“In the World I remained entombed, but alive—forever giving life from within, for I warm this Earth as its ever vibrant and beating heart. I pumped heat into the cold oceans as my lava coursed wildly through the sub-earthly veins to reach the icy formless wastelands above. Then I spewed my hot breath to form the sea mountains into islands, which grew so high that moisture froze atop their crests, which then eventually melted and became my spirit sister, Water.

“Down the mountainside, as water droplets, she dreapt and flowed ever downward to join with others who would lave the barren soil with love and nourishment. Some soil she carried away to new places, meanwhile widening herself into creeks and streams and then into streams whose banks she kept forever moist. Soon her brother, the Air, came to drink of her vapors, and carried the spirit afar. And wherever the air was wafted, flowers bloomed.

“Yes, it was here in my mountain mass and stream where life first bred; here it was where my wind moved the air on which birds flew and carried the song of my spirit through the trees which then whispered it along to man’s ear and thence to his heart and mind wherein he sang it as a song to the beauty of Life and Love.

“And that Song was as sure and sweet as the breath of my fresh spirit which blew life into man, who, with all of my creations, came to drink of my stream. Then and there it was that Man came to understand Nature’s tone as it resonated and played rhythm to life through the din of survival and war, through the noise of consciousness, through the sickness and the strife; through goodness, delight, and everlasting joy.

“But throughout it all I remained—and still and forevermore I cool the glade while my water flows lovingly astride the flower petals wherefore I evaporate and join with the air to be carried afar, even to deserts, where on the morning sand as dew I give drink to the thirsty spider. Elsewhere I wet the shores of Earth and cool the land with my breeze. There it was that you two as a poet and an artist found me lonely and ignored, and so captured my spirit into these romanticized words so that all of your readers could taste of my soul and pillow life’s weariness in one of my many sweet spots.

“Then so it is that my Love triumphs over all as I envelop you in this dream of a world that is ours. I will eventually collect your heart back to mine, for I am your beginning and your end. Now you know just how potent is the spirit of my love! So much so, that just one sigh of my love buried in you echoes loudly in your heart; that it can never, after all else dies, ever pass away.”


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Nice timing IC ... as today is the anniversary of the 'Black Hole of Calcutta'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hole_of_Calcutta


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What about Jallianwala Bagh (Amritsar. Punjab 13/4/1919) massacre, where general Dyer got killed more than 2000 innocent people who were observing peaceful protest? If referring to Indian history during the British rule, try to be impartial. Ls could quote thousands, not just scores, such cases of British excesses. But we are not discussing here history, are we? Ls
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Bibra, throw away your prejudiced golden and silver rules, and accept the maturity of scientific facts. There's a far better first philosophy I learned way back in the sixties___"Take the innate path of least harm to all others___i.e., the path of least resistance." With this truly mathematizable axiom of pure first thinking, one can trash the ambiguous immaturity of the worn and dis-proven golden rule, and have access to idea foundations, that may just have the possibility to start solving some of the world's real problems, as it allows the real and solid rule of new law, without the paradoxical gatekeeper ambiguities, now plaguing the world into sickness, poverty, crime and stupid/needless wars. The authors you list need a lot more innate self-integrity education to catch up to the mathematizable axiom listed above, so please don't pest me with your false accusations. Try to address the science of the facts, of logic, and or emotions, as the above formula works just as well for emotions, as logic or math.

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lg; instead of casting vindictive, irreverent and irresponsible aspersion, the right course would have been to refute, with your 'absolute' knowledge which has not, so far bought you any takers ( for your FS). Instead of flouting improvable theories and theories, come out with provable ‘model’, not based on hypothetical theories but with rational models. Spiritual knowledge is beyond your mind, it is inner knowledge which has nothing to do with material knowledge. You throw science at us as if we are a bunch of dumb siblings. Grow up man, the world is changing fast, it is catching up with the west. Be ready to ‘meet’ it with love and compassion, but not with venom which is seeped in your veins. Cleanse it with love.
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[___"Take the innate path of least harm to all others___i.e., the path of least resistance."
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dear prof. not only accepted gracefully, but has been practising since ages& expect the same in return,not towards the ls, but the universal society in general. many salutes prof.with love&regards.

ps,the essence of four Vedas (ancient indian scriptures) is "hurt never,help ever".
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[___"Take the innate path of least harm to all others___i.e., the path of least resistance."
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dear prof. not only accepted gracefully, but has been practising since ages& expect the same in return,not towards the ls, but the universal society in general. many salutes prof.with love&regards.

ps,the essence of four Vedas (ancient indian scriptures) is "hurt never,help ever".
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Your post commemorates the First Law of Medicine: "Do No Harm". - Hippocrates

"What we do in the present, echoes through eternity". - Marcus Meridius Decimus

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The essence of four Vedas (ancient indian scriptures) is:

"hurt never,help ever".

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Your post commemorates the First Law of Medicine:

"Do No Harm".
- Hippocrates

"What we do in the present, echoes through eternity".
- Marcus Meridius Decimus
Very Interesting ...

So by the same logic the Essence of the Christian would be:
"Do as you would be done by"

So what would the Essence of the Athiest be? How about:

"Truth thru Proof"


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Very Interesting ...

So by the same logic the Essence of the Christian would be:
"Do as you would be done by"

So what would the Essence of the Athiest be? How about:

"Truth thru Proof"


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In case it does not hurt your atheism,"Truth thru Proof" is the spiritual way of realising the Truth. By the way, what is truth, in the definition of the atheists?love&regards.ls
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Consciousness

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The three lower consciousnesses that are
Obsessed with the securing of objects,
With the chasing of sensations, and with
Power/control will never ever be enough.

There are NO actions of people that can
Justify our becoming irritable
Angry, fearful, jealous or anxious if
We give them our unconditional love.

If we don’t accept the unacceptable,
Then we lower our level of consciousness
Our response will mirror their uptightness—
Which can spread the bad moods onto others.

Conscious Awareness, which can but witness,
Is a safe haven from which to observe
The drama of our lives playing in our minds,
Granting us a sobering distance from it.

From a safe subjective place that’s free of fear,
Our soul, our conscious awareness, can witness
The strange thoughts and emotions that surface
On the mind, sent by the subconscious brain.

Putting ourselves in the place of others
When hurtful things are done to us,
Expands our consciousness, compassion, and love
Since we can come to know why they did it.

When we converse with ourselves, it is our
Higher Consciousness—our Conscious Awareness
Or I, that questions our lower consciousness
Impulses toward securing, sensation, and power.

Seeing the big picture of life and its stages
And connections lets one not get annoyed, say,
At being cut off in traffic, for s/he
May be old, learning, lost, growing, or angry.

Putting the needs of others ahead of
Our own produces the byproduct of
Happiness and reduces stress, for we
No longer have unrealistic expectations.

Choose what is good for everyone, not just you,
After careful philosophic thought,
Then do it, even though your natural
Inclination may be not to do it.
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I dont think there is something like higher conciousness. Everything ends with the death of an individual.
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