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View Poll Results: What happens after you die?
You are reincarnated 20 14.39%
You are eaten by worms 31 22.30%
You go to heaven or hell 12 8.63%
You transcend to a higher plane of existence 24 17.27%
Other (please explain) 52 37.41%
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That goes for me too Graham....seeing I have lost my bathing suit in China...lolol



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Mikal, Luckily you reappeared back in Canada, for didn't you say once that people saw you out someplace doing wild things when you were really just sitting at home reading the dead sea scrolls?
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I have heard a lot of these kind of stories and I must say that I do not believe them. Simply because I need a subjective reply as to where does the mind reside in our body???

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A recent neuroscientific study into NDEs revealed interesting facts which challenge the materialist view that mind, consciousness and self are simply by-products of electrochemical brain processes and NDEs are delusions created by a defective brain.

A case in point was that of Pam Reynolds who would die without a very dangerous and complicated medical procedure which would take her heart to the state of clinical death for a short time. She agreed to the fragile surgury for she felt she had nothing to lose and alot to gain.

Many NDEs do not happen in the presence of medical doctors so Pam Reynolds case made medical history. In the state of clinical death with her heart function stopped and the brain wave flatlined Pam Reynolds was declared for a short time clinically dead.

When more or less medically rebooting her heart and brain, Pam Reynolds returned to tell them all about the operation, named the surgical tools, told medical personnel where they stood and what they said. Doctors said in the state of clinical death she should not have perceived anything and without brain function her mind, consciousness and self should not have been acting in its own right.....but Pam's remarkable recall showed the mind can act without the brain....



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I have heard a lot of these kind of stories and I must say that I do not believe them. Simply because I need a subjective reply as to where does the mind reside in our body???
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I can see where you're coming from. Can you answer how the body relates to mind?
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Finding it a bit difficult? The body doesn't need a mind - does it? How did evolution come up with that?

Science: preconceptions + wrong questions + artistic licence + political control of the populace = ?
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Do you belive mind exists? The brain is our thought center...


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"Our brains do not produce mind and consciousness but rather act as reducing valves, allowing us the experience of only a narrow portion of perceivable reality."

Aldous Huxley, The Doors of Perception..

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"Our neuroimaging studies suggest that NDEs, religious and spiritual metaphysical experiences entail changes which are neuroelectric, neurochemical and neurometabolic in nature for these experiences to take place. These experiences indicate that the nature of the mind, consciousness and reality as well as the meaning of life can be apprehended through an intuitive, unitive and experiential form of knowing. There is an epistemological gap between the psychological realm (psyche) and the physical realm (physis). These two are complimentary aspects of the same underlying principle: neither can be entirely discounted in favor of the other. There is every indication that the nature of the psyche or the central core of self (soul) is spiritual and presently we are in a trend in human evolution toward spiritualization of conciousness."

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Which means that minds is an interaction of neural activities...


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Mind, brain and body may just be correlates of our spiritual core which is psyche or soul. Perhaps the psyche itself or our spiritual core is of the nature of aether???? Perhaps our spiritual core of self when connected to lower sense only receives as Huxley said "a narrow portion of perceivable reality" and when or if bonding, binding and uniting with higher senses and what is called principles of higher mind completes a connect and unification into a more broader portion of perceivable reality.



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