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Already been solved
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Within 5 years
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Within 10 years
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Within 25 years
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Within 100 years
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Within 500 years
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Will never be solved
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06-11-2005, 07:18 AM
| | hdeasy,
What I don't understand, is why if heim theory has achieved the basics of a T.O.E., it isn't recognised as such, or in the news, or worked on by most scientists? | | | | Raider of the lost time
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06-11-2005, 06:56 PM
| as far as the universe is concerned, the theory of everything is solved. Because the universe uses this theory to keep itself alive. This is the plasma theory of cold fusion. To understand hot and cold fusion is to understand a theory of everything. For a theory of everything can explain the true meaning of temperature and its intimate relationship with energy and matter and also of space and time. Entropy is defined classically as the change of heat energy over the temperature and infinite entropy happens at the time when the temperature is zero. Modern definition is given as a measure for the disorderness of a system http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Entropy.html | | | | Green Belt
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06-12-2005, 10:00 AM
| | Hi Guille,
>What I don't understand, is why if heim theory has achieved the basics of a T.O.E., it
> isn't recognised as such, or in the news, or worked on by most scientists?
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That's a long story - see the Wikipedia and Heim-theory.com descriptins and histories to get an idea of the situation. It can be summarised thus:
1. Heim was even more hindered than Hawking - the latter became crippled after he was already in academe, more or less. Heim lost hands, 90% of sight and nearly all his hearing at 19, and could only follow a university course wtih great difficulty. Eventually he could't stand the strain of trying to work in a team and so withdrew into a sort of hermet existence - eccentric but brilliant, working obsessively for 25 years before cracking his goal.
2. He was famous in the 1950's - I've seen the magazine cuttings where Heisenberg, Pascual Jordan, Becker of Goetingen, Heisenberg's successor Dorr, Werner Von Braun etc. all were quoted as saying that Heim was a genius, Nobel prize material etc. But Heim's long silence resulted in these, his academic supporters, simply dying of old age before the theory was complete. In the 1970's Heim then emerged from isolation to begin publishing a bit - though even that only at the insistence of friends. But by then he was no longer known, and was no longer affiliated with a university, and so he was essentially ignored.
3. On top of all that, Heim's notation is non standard - the digital metronic caculus is different to the usual differential caculus and so needs about a year of training to come to grips with. Only between 10 and 20 professors and experts in relativity / QCD /ECD have so far taken the effort to trian themselves in this difficult area - and they have not been disappointed: E.G. Droscher was even able to extend Heim's work rigourously to 12 dimensions. He and Hauser now want to concentrate on getting the foundattions of the theory in the journals - so only this year will appear in a journal the mathematically rigourous derivation of the central eigen-value equations.
After all these annoying delays hopefully this year is the year of Heim, as well as his idol, Einstein.
Hugh.
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07-05-2005, 09:39 AM
| TOE does not exist By definition, the theory of everything does not exist. A TOE implies that one may obtain a final theory (imposible), measure all (imposible), compute exactly (imposible), and compare that with experiment.
Some physicists claim for an effective TOE, that is a theory for all we can measure, compute, etc. History shows that all past effective TOEs (since Newtonina mechanics claimed to explain all) were a complete failure. There is no rational reason for believe that now it will be diferent.
In fact, nobody understand still bounded states in relativistic quantum electrodynamics but physicists claim that all, except quantum gravity, is known. This resembles to me Bohr prediction: "in six mounts physics will be finished".
Or more recent by Hawking: "in 25 physics we will achieve the final theory. If i am not wrong he said in 80s and 25 years already passed". Heim theory
Heim theory was presented with many failures and errors to comunity. However, it was/is being studied by comunity and it is NOT a TOE. It is really interesting but is not a TOE. | | | | Green Belt
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07-09-2005, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Juan R. By definition, the theory of everything does not exist. A TOE implies that one may obtain a final theory (imposible), measure all (imposible), compute exactly (imposible), and compare that with experiment.
Or more recent by Hawking: "in 25 physics we will achieve the final theory. If i am not wrong he said in 80s and 25 years already passed". Heim theory
Heim theory was presented with many failures and errors to comunity. However, it was/is being studied by comunity and it is NOT a TOE. It is really interesting but is not a TOE. | Yes, we all know that TOE is a misnomer - better is 'unified field theory', or 'grand unified theory'. These theories, even if giving comlete decriptions of forces and particle properties, say nothing of higher levels of complexity like biology, consciousness, life etc. | | | | The Thinker
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08-06-2005, 05:36 AM
| | The TOE is, like hdeasy sayd, a magnifying name. TOE simply is the theory that will explain everything if not nearly everything studied in physics, by one same basis. | | | | Green Belt
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08-07-2005, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by <<>> The TOE is, like hdeasy sayd, a magnifying name. TOE simply is the theory that will explain everything if not nearly everything studied in physics, by one same basis. | Yes, indeed. By the way - a little bird tells me that New Scientist may soon print something on Heim and his relation to Loop Quantum Gravity. So the era of obscurity is reaching an end...
Ciao,
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08-23-2005, 09:08 AM
| | not within 500 years and not never ...
(my guess)
(if meant to be solved by humans and possible helpers)
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08-23-2005, 07:12 PM
| | The sky is dark..The Sun is dark but the hope lightens the galaxies. It was the first time that the human wanted to think of his future.The future ,in any meaning,can be defined as the other home to live in .Now there is perhaps in science another house or palace to live on and stay forever .That's been named " TOE " .However none of us would say that the path to arrive there has been found.!.Some say today we'll be there,others say Never Ever !. In my opinion we won't get the main meaning of TOE till finding why we need it.and on the other hand,we have to say that the length of time and days may not affect on our plan to make it happen namely the event of finding TOE.I think,TOE will be solved soon but won't show its major influence on the new century men .When I say soon I mean no more than 10 years .I am sure that TOE ,after releasing its main sceneries of a novel , fantastic , super civilisation in the slightest parcels of a greater society ,will start making complex philosophical ideas of God , Human , the past and the present .Future,itself ,may not be mentioned the previous sentence because TOE is certainly an absolute future. Now.Think you've got to that target.To that future.that absolute future.There you'll seefinding TOE was so easy but using it is the most difficult plan.I am sure that TOE is not a leaf of paper.It is an existing tale.It is not as our normal theories .it is a forward movement to gain the vaster and wider picture of our creation .TOE will be the beginning of our move to the emancipation of Human and Nature....both together in one ever-lasting revolution .... .How do you feel now Brother? .... . .. .
__________________ כז וַיִּבְרָא אֱלֹהִים אֶת-הָאָדָם בְּצַלְמוֹ, בְּצֶלֶם אֱלֹהִים בָּרָא אֹתוֹ: זָכָר וּנְקֵבָה, בָּרָא אֹתָם. 27 And God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them. Genesis Chapter 1 | | | | The Thinker
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08-25-2005, 10:43 AM
| | Tornado sun,
You wrote it really well. The toe is much more than al the other theories sum up together and multiplyed by infinite, even more. | | | |  | | |
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