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directions coincede 2 50.00%
directions don't coincede (they are opposite) 2 50.00%
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Re: directions of spinning and motion along the orbit - 05-12-2007, 09:20 PM

I have checked and will continue to check resources on this question. So far no specific answer has presented itself. It's all the more intriquiing as a question for this reason, until further notice. There are too many variables that take it far beyond a simple issue of 'gearing' - the sun also rotates on it's axis, for example. This may not be an answer, but I guess it's more an uqualified response.


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Re: directions of spinning and motion along the orbit - 05-16-2007, 09:09 AM

Hi!
Don’t think much about it…
At the time of posting of a poll I tried to systematize spin as a main regularity of universe - singled out several different kinds of them:
1. Spin of solid heavenly bodies (solid planets) on their own axes
(e.g. turning of Earth on its own axis);
2. Turning of solid heavenly bodies around each-other
(e.g. turning of the Moon around the Earth);
3. Turning of solid heavenly bodies around the Sun (around expended matter).
Example is orbital movement of planets (e.g. of the Earth, of Mars etc).
I tried to find out which of mentioned variety presents local event and which doesn’t…


Let’s take ordinary pipe of a big diameter. Everybody knows its cut is a circle




Let’s take ordinary wheel which has its pivot and can spin on it.




If we try to move (turn) the wheel around the outside surface of pipe then directions of spin around the pipe and on the pivot coincide,
If we try to move (turn) the wheel around the inside surface of pipe then directions of spin around the pipe and on the pivot are opposite to each-other.
I.e. generally spin’s direction gives us the clue about character of spin itself…
Finally I came up to conclusion that
1. Turning of any planet on its own axis is local-autonomous event for this planet;
2. Turning of satellites around the solid planet is local-autonomous event for mentioned pair;
3. Orbital movements of planets of any solar system is local-autonomous event for the Sun of the same solar system, but is common event for every consisting solid heavenly bodies of this same solar system,

1. I.e. we must seek the reason (origin) of solid planet’s spin on its own axis locally
(at mentioned planet)…
2. We must seek the reason (origin) of solid planet’s spin around each-other also locally
(but at mentioned pair)
3. The most important for me: the Sun forces all planets (all solid heavenly bodies) in its solar system to their orbital movement (turning), so
We must seek the reason (origin) of solid planet’s orbital movement locally at this solar system


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