[DanielCopper]

As TOE means "Theorie of Everything", i guess it should cover every study, simple and easy.

[BIG-BERTA]

Originally Posted by Robert

I chose biology mainly because our biology seems to limit our ability to see reality objectively. Overcoming our biology, which would appear to be impossible, becomes the basis of the Theory of Everything.

I dont think the problem is biology but our type of living as a 3 dimensional beeings.

[BIG-BERTA]

Originally Posted by DanielCopper

As TOE means "Theorie of Everything", i guess it should cover every study, simple and easy.

A TOE is meant to be a physics theory that explains an origin of Matter in the universe but not an explanation of everything because EVERYTHING IS COMPOSED BY MATTER .

Matemathicaly we already have a TOE:
1+1=2

[david44]

I think the TOE should encompass all areas of science. From the basic Physics of the creation of Matter and the expanding universe, to the Evolution of life itself. From the understanding of the creation of life and all the way to the inevitable complex nature of it.

I think that the reality we see in nature must also play a role in any TOE because if a theory comes forward that cannot be connected to what we know to be true, (such as the things we know we can do with Electromagnetic Energy or Light) clearly cannot be a real TOE.

I think there is a very distinct chain of events that connects all of it, going back to the very beginning, although I also believe the actual start never stopped happening. Kind of like an ongoing continual adding of basic ingredients to the pot. And that this will also be part of the final analysis of the TOE.

cheers David

http://theuniversalcodeofliving.com

[subversion]

I voted physics and other. The reason is that I believe predominately the TOE will be a theory of physics, but on the other hand it will describe the other fields as well. Physics is the most fundamental study of reality, and everything else, meaning religion, philosophy, social sciences, biology, and cognitive science, merely stems forth from physics. In other words, there is a physical basis for philosophy, a physical basis for religion, a physical basis for biology, etc. etc.

The main property of the TOE is that it will describe everything about the universe, including why it expands, why/how it exists to begin with, how we can control/manipulate it, what will happen to it, etc. In explaining these things, it will have to explain the unification of QM and GR, but only as a side note since QM and GR are prestanding paradigms that will be outdated by the TOE.

As an afterthought the TOE will make us realize some profound things about philosophy and religion. It will also show to us many things about biology, such as the fact that the primary "reason" for evolution is to bring about the TOE, a fact which I have already stated and which I discovered from the TOE itself. Also it will tell us a lot about social science, and politics, showing us a "righteous" ideal path governed by certain principles which will allow humans to make the absolute best of civilization and our relationships with one another. The TOE will show us the importance of life and why we should live harmoniously with natural accordance. In short, the TOE is a theory of physics, which means it also gives us the answers to religion, philosophy, social sciences, politics, morality, biology, and everything else under the sun and over. Cheers, that's my belief.

[tornado_sun]

Wow!Welldone Sir US-born Merxico !....I loved what you said .
But not all of them were correct/
1-The religions are not totaly understandable in the TOE.
2-Civilisation in its pure meaning does not require the TOE.but it's the Theory of Everything which will always be in need of civilisation.TOE wants to establish a methodology and cosmology of how to predict when everything's not predictable .Anthropology is the first step .How the Human Kind could be created is one of the most precious questions to be solved by our wonderful-futuristic ultimate knowledge : Theory of Everything.
3-We have to not to be whimsical anyway!Whose brain will solve that theorem?Do you all really think that the TOE must be a combination of Relativity and Quantum ?...I don't wanna think so .Do you ?.If I did , I wouldn't think broader in universe.The more you close your visionary ideas by only saying Noway we have to just unify these two theories,The more you all get problem in future.Never has the TOE been so closed and isolated as today in the year 2005 compared to its originality many years ago.Today mostly all scientist especially these idiot physicians in Harvard University or any famous ones say NoMan ! No religion! No Philosophy! No Biology! Only Mathematics and Relativity and Quantum then String Theory and then due to not having an absolute and complete hypothesis the M Theory came up !What the bloody hell is there?What's happening in the Communities ?...
You'd better know Sirs.You all know what on earth the TOE must be.You surely know that neither of two groups in creating a TOE ,one:whoever says that we must have Relativity+Quantum ,another:whoever says that we must have those two plus all other branches of knowledge (not science)+religion in ita purity ,,is right .Why are you all waiting ?what are you waiting for?You were supposed to be the boys and girls of the new Millennium The most creative and intelligent people on earth since the prehistoric era .Nonetheless taht's the way it's been done! ...
I am so worried about the future of life .The TOE will be a total disaster for humanity whereas I personally believe in the Theory of Everything helping set up a new civilisation anyway.I'd like not to prefer to choose religion in TOE.I am 100% sure that religion must be defined by your words.You are christian.The Christianity is simple and the definition for it in TOE is quite simple so the title Religion in TOE ,if Christianity is said to be the one to be put in the section of religion in TOE , we will achieve nothing of that.It won't give us the immortal laws related to TOE.On the other hand Islam is an absolutely complex and high-qualified religion .Here 's the issue.The complexity will cause the TOE to drop off its original opinions which wanted to make the universe simple to understand.Islam will change the way in which you all need to see a simpler universe,although that is the most powerful religion and according to the history the most public and popular religion in relation to the societies and revolutions .(I never defend any of the religions here not because of feer of others ideas,but in order to keep the TOE relax to create itself out of the history).

Well go on to Buddihsm .The love of all Quantum Men! Zen ! Where is God in our Spirtuality,no where! !?
Besides all I mentioned ,I definitely accpet politics,economics,biology,mathematics of course ,sociology and human sciences,languages,Art ,geology and cosmology and so on.
Some body might have said : Who the hell are you? No one needs your shit opinions.get back! and shut up !

I agree with that person .nevertheless these were not of me but of what the historic methodology has said I guess !.........

[david44]

Originally Posted by tornado_sun

Wow!Welldone Sir US-born Merxico !....I loved what you said .
But not all of them were correct/
1-The religions are not totaly understandable in the TOE.
2-Civilisation in its pure meaning does not require the TOE.but it's the Theory of Everything which will always be in need of civilisation.TOE wants to establish a methodology and cosmology of how to predict when everything's not predictable .Anthropology is the first step .How the Human Kind could be created is one of the most precious questions to be solved by our wonderful-futuristic ultimate knowledge : Theory of Everything.
3-We have to not to be whimsical anyway!Whose brain will solve that theorem?Do you all really think that the TOE must be a combination of Relativity and Quantum ?...I don't wanna think so .Do you ?.If I did , I wouldn't think broader in universe.The more you close your visionary ideas by only saying Noway we have to just unify these two theories,The more you all get problem in future.Never has the TOE been so closed and isolated as today in the year 2005 compared to its originality many years ago.Today mostly all scientist especially these idiot physicians in Harvard University or any famous ones say NoMan ! No religion! No Philosophy! No Biology! Only Mathematics and Relativity and Quantum then String Theory and then due to not having an absolute and complete hypothesis the M Theory came up !What the bloody hell is there?What's happening in the Communities ?...
You'd better know Sirs.You all know what on earth the TOE must be.You surely know that neither of two groups in creating a TOE ,one:whoever says that we must have Relativity+Quantum ,another:whoever says that we must have those two plus all other branches of knowledge (not science)+religion in ita purity ,,is right .Why are you all waiting ?what are you waiting for?You were supposed to be the boys and girls of the new Millennium The most creative and intelligent people on earth since the prehistoric era .Nonetheless taht's the way it's been done! ...
I am so worried about the future of life .The TOE will be a total disaster for humanity whereas I personally believe in the Theory of Everything helping set up a new civilisation anyway.I'd like not to prefer to choose religion in TOE.I am 100% sure that religion must be defined by your words.You are christian.The Christianity is simple and the definition for it in TOE is quite simple so the title Religion in TOE ,if Christianity is said to be the one to be put in the section of religion in TOE , we will achieve nothing of that.It won't give us the immortal laws related to TOE.On the other hand Islam is an absolutely complex and high-qualified religion .Here 's the issue.The complexity will cause the TOE to drop off its original opinions which wanted to make the universe simple to understand.Islam will change the way in which you all need to see a simpler universe,although that is the most powerful religion and according to the history the most public and popular religion in relation to the societies and revolutions .(I never defend any of the religions here not because of feer of others ideas,but in order to keep the TOE relax to create itself out of the history).

Well go on to Buddihsm .The love of all Quantum Men! Zen ! Where is God in our Spirtuality,no where! !?
Besides all I mentioned ,I definitely accpet politics,economics,biology,mathematics of course ,sociology and human sciences,languages,Art ,geology and cosmology and so on.
Some body might have said : Who the hell are you? No one needs your shit opinions.get back! and shut up !

I agree with that person .nevertheless these were not of me but of what the historic methodology has said I guess !.........

If god is supposed to be everything that makes up the universe and that he creates things in his own image, wouldn't it mean that we would look like every other rock in space? Because life makes up far less than point 1 of 1% of matter. Even on your religious scale of thinking, why would this god create such a minute amount of life if he just wanted to clone himself?

It seems to me that if god created anything in his own image then it would mean that he is very egotisitical and wouldn't stop with such a pitiful form of life as human beings.

Therefore to bring in religion of any faith to the TOE is such a flawed idea that the thought of it itself would easily stop mankind from finding the real answers to the TOE.

cheers David

http://theuniversalcodeofliving.com

[tornado_sun]

First,I'd like to thank Sir David a real sincere mate .

As you had mentioned in your message , God and His image,I now want to litghen the dark corners of that satement .
In my previous reply to our buddy ,I said religion shouldn't be put in the TOE at the first and early steps of just thinking of a TOE not even creating TOE .Because Creation is one thing and thought of that creation is another thing.
We in an ever-attempt have begun the issue of God and his influences on our science .The science I want to speak of is only Physics because other fields are not similar to Physics in the God Issue.
In Physics we need to have a God who's not playing dice and game and movie.We want a determinate God in one side and another God as a Free Thinker in another position.Both will cause terrible effects on TOE as mentioned earlier about the religions ,God and his constant entity is quite something which cannot be described easily .
But we somehow need that explanation to see what the Human Function is.We are as simple as others and as comlex as others.We can't say due to our origin which is God's Soul we are totaly disoriented from other rocks and meteors .They move as do we.They obey rules as do we & they communicate so do we.God in this sate can't be meant as a player to play us.and neither do we as some players to play to live on.
Life as is not Game is not based on predictions and God's thoughts.
Life also does not have those rules of Physics as All of us by now have known or perhaps after Quantum Theory.
God & Life can't be matched or devided or categorised into one group .They have no internal connections only and only till we want to add them together in a Religious Companionship.
What we need to do from now on in the TOE is that we should focus on the influences of behaviour of Human beings & other things(no idea what I should name other creatures to have some relationship between Human and those others).Psychology will find us the way we need to search about those behaviours .If you remember , God and Life are being twisted in every single action whether in Cosmology or Art or Mathematics.When you kill another person from another land for any logical reason ,you undoubtly and unconsciously have entered the story of Me or No one which is a feedback of our selfish life.And if we are of God ,God must have some feedback inside us And if only only .0000001 % of that selfishness and Egoism (namely : the selfish idea which told you to kill that person because he's for example a Jewish)so you are guilty 99.999999 % by yourself and your personal behaviour and as mentioned above , 0.000001 % which is the rest of your feedback on that killed person belongs to God and God and you Both internaly and connectively are participant in that crime and another crime belonging to you is that you have also killed your participant by killing that dead person because as we related you to God ,He was also of God (good or bad that is the truth ) .so now your problem is twice as deeper as what it really was.
Now people will say : That God who is your partner must be killed and that God who was killed by you via murdering that person must get his compensations but because he was also in partnership of your crime therefore he should have died because we did not have any evidence to say that that God was really having the right and holy feedback and act inside that killed man .Perhaps he has killed him by creating him !

That's the simplest and understandable of the psychological judgment of God and You.
Now you do not want to have friendship with God and neither will other people. Now You and Others and Judges have killed God in society ~(his effects and words in society).And because God is holy you all are guilty .

What I recommend is that do not put God and Life together when even you all do not know how TOE will define and translate the Universe ,other than a real complicated issue such as God and Life which should not be discussed at the beginning of the TOE.


Thank You.

[david44]

Originally Posted by tornado_sun

First,I'd like to thank Sir David a real sincere mate .

As you had mentioned in your message , God and His image,I now want to litghen the dark corners of that satement .
In my previous reply to our buddy ,I said religion shouldn't be put in the TOE at the first and early steps of just thinking of a TOE not even creating TOE .Because Creation is one thing and thought of that creation is another thing.
We in an ever-attempt have begun the issue of God and his influences on our science .The science I want to speak of is only Physics because other fields are not similar to Physics in the God Issue.
In Physics we need to have a God who's not playing dice and game and movie.We want a determinate God in one side and another God as a Free Thinker in another position.Both will cause terrible effects on TOE as mentioned earlier about the religions ,God and his constant entity is quite something which cannot be described easily .
But we somehow need that explanation to see what the Human Function is.We are as simple as others and as comlex as others.We can't say due to our origin which is God's Soul we are totaly disoriented from other rocks and meteors .They move as do we.They obey rules as do we & they communicate so do we.God in this sate can't be meant as a player to play us.and neither do we as some players to play to live on.
Life as is not Game is not based on predictions and God's thoughts.
Life also does not have those rules of Physics as All of us by now have known or perhaps after Quantum Theory.
God & Life can't be matched or devided or categorised into one group .They have no internal connections only and only till we want to add them together in a Religious Companionship.
What we need to do from now on in the TOE is that we should focus on the influences of behaviour of Human beings & other things(no idea what I should name other creatures to have some relationship between Human and those others).Psychology will find us the way we need to search about those behaviours .If you remember , God and Life are being twisted in every single action whether in Cosmology or Art or Mathematics.When you kill another person from another land for any logical reason ,you undoubtly and unconsciously have entered the story of Me or No one which is a feedback of our selfish life.And if we are of God ,God must have some feedback inside us And if only only .0000001 % of that selfishness and Egoism (namely : the selfish idea which told you to kill that person because he's for example a Jewish)so you are guilty 99.999999 % by yourself and your personal behaviour and as mentioned above , 0.000001 % which is the rest of your feedback on that killed person belongs to God and God and you Both internaly and connectively are participant in that crime and another crime belonging to you is that you have also killed your participant by killing that dead person because as we related you to God ,He was also of God (good or bad that is the truth ) .so now your problem is twice as deeper as what it really was.
Now people will say : That God who is your partner must be killed and that God who was killed by you via murdering that person must get his compensations but because he was also in partnership of your crime therefore he should have died because we did not have any evidence to say that that God was really having the right and holy feedback and act inside that killed man .Perhaps he has killed him by creating him !

That's the simplest and understandable of the psychological judgment of God and You.
Now you do not want to have friendship with God and neither will other people. Now You and Others and Judges have killed God in society ~(his effects and words in society).And because God is holy you all are guilty .



Thank You.

I see that you are very passionate about your god beliefs. I am very passionate about the opposite. I am totally offended when other people preach their religious beliefs to myself or others. Every religious belief infers that I and others like me are not worthy to be here, and that is the most offensive behaviour I know about, short of killing people or getting violent.

What I recommend is that do not put God and Life together when even you all do not know how TOE will define and translate the Universe ,other than a real complicated issue such as God and Life which should not be discussed at the beginning of the TOE.

I agree with this statement. Life has nothing to do with god and god has nothing to do with life. Let's finally get back to that understanding. The TOE should be free and clear of any type of beliefs completely.

cheers David

http://theuniversalcodeofliving.com

[tornado_sun]

Thank you so much my kind David.