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04-06-2007, 12:01 PM
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We are connected by chemical reactions, constantly exchanging atoms.

I think we can even wire us.

You surely are right Michael.

Also wiring creates new life.

Important is the quality of the wire, which seems to increase with time.

As humanity evolves, its head is getting bigger; so is the capacity of its brain; now complexity is increasing.

While this happens, new gods shall arise; nature has the tendency to 'want' more and more with the same information it started with.
(but now it seems to be a bit overheated; its foundation seems to have trouble to keep up with its intention).

I think as time continues, its intention will be obliged to leave its foundation and explore/create new foundations.
In the mean time it will have to do with the foundation it's got now, by using it with optimum efficiency.

The foundation it has now is nothing more than a 'dot' in the universe.

Humanity is like a child growing up; absorbing information.
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We are connected by chemical reactions, constantly exchanging atoms.

I think we can even wire us.

You surely are right Michael.

Also wiring creates new life.

Important is the quality of the wire, which seems to increase with time.

As humanity evolves, its head is getting bigger; so is the capacity of its brain; now complexity is increasing.

While this happens, new gods shall arise; nature has the tendency to 'want' more and more with the same information it started with.
(but now it seems to be a bit overheated; its foundation seems to have trouble to keep up with its intention).

I think as time continues, its intention will be obliged to leave its foundation and explore/create new foundations.
In the mean time it will have to do with the foundation it's got now, by using it with optimum efficiency.

The foundation it has now is nothing more than a 'dot' in the universe.

Humanity is like a child growing up; absorbing information.
That is a novel way of putting it david,cheers.

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— The Prison —

I can never share a mind directly,
For there is no access; we are alone.
Mind melding works only for the Vulcans.
This loneliness leads us to company.

— Loneliness —

The unbearable solitude of consciousness
Is relieved by literature, social clubs,
Movies, caring, friendships, discussion, writing,
And other sharing acts, but, mostly, by love.

The separation of human consciousness from its Infinite Self as Infinite Love or the "One Unchangeable Permanence" is the direct result of mind and its thinking.

The unbearable solitude of consciousness is ended by the return of the attention (Pure Love) from the world back to its source the soul within us.

With the return of the attention back to its source we no longer require to be loved - we no longer require to love in order to feel love - we merge in and become one with "Love" itself per se. That in itself is Alpha and Omega. The beginning and the end !
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but now it seems to be a bit overheated; .
Correction; the child has a fever; it's ill.
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Copernicus has proven that the sun is the center of our sunsystem and not the earth.

In former days, people believed that the earth was the center and that heaven moved around it. Not understanding where they came from, they thought the earth was the meaning of everything; they gave significance to what they saw and they pointed to the stars as being gods, they believed the sun was a god. They didn't understand what was the real meaning of those things.

Just to prove that the sun was the center of the sunsystem and not the earth, has taken centuries.

When you think about Stonehenge for example; it was a place of pilgrimage. The stones were put there in a certain sequence (kind of solarium). The stones were next to a river which guided to a village where they had their own kind of solarium (actually the stones where to make a difference between the beginning of winter and summer). In this village pilgrims met eachother to feast.

The intention of the stones was to commemorate their ancestors. So that was their world. People use symbols which they believe in. A symbol attracts potential energy. They were people just like us, and just like us those people asked theirselves the question: 'Where do we come from?' and 'What happens if we die?' I think the only difference was they didn't have our knowledge, so to give a meaning to their life, they used gods to explain it, because they didn't understand. Now we have more knowledge, but we still really can't answer those questions; so I think we might also be using gods to explain them.

Now we know the earth is not the center of the sunsystem; it's the sun.

But lots of us believe that humanity is the center of the universe, the meaning of the universe. But we don't really understand the universe (yet) or the meaning or the origin of humanity. (Also think of the fact that the earth is just a dot in the universe). Is humanity really the meaning of the universe?

Personally I consider humanity more to be a manifestation of 'something else' in the universe (whatever that might be); could it be something we don't understand (yet)?
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Thanks David for your last post,its great that this thread of mine has been given a new lease of life,symbols are indeed embedded within the very heart of our consciousness,
the symbol is the archetype of conscious perception,and they carry much potent energy
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“Here’s a romantic puzzle for you,” said he, “Tell me, how much is one plus one?”

“Well,” she surmised, “I know it could not be two—because if the question was that easy you wouldn’t be asking it of me!”

“True. What do we two add up to?” he hinted.

“Now I know,” she said. “Before we met, we were each as one, isolated each in our vocation and studies, but now we’re worth much more together than we could ever be alone—we add up to even more than two because we are each an input to the other, sharing our minds, hearts, souls, and senses; that synergy accounts for the extra quantity of living! And it doesn’t stop there, since, as we each improve, we can give that much more in return to the other and to the world! Then we’ll add up to even more!”

“It is proved, my dear. QED. Two is greater than one plus one!”

( 1 + 1 > 2 )
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“Here’s a romantic puzzle for you,” said he, “Tell me, how much is one plus one?”

“Well,” she surmised, “I know it could not be two—because if the question was that easy you wouldn’t be asking it of me!”

“True. What do we two add up to?” he hinted.

“Now I know,” she said. “Before we met, we were each as one, isolated each in our vocation and studies, but now we’re worth much more together than we could ever be alone—we add up to even more than two because we are each an input to the other, sharing our minds, hearts, souls, and senses; that synergy accounts for the extra quantity of living! And it doesn’t stop there, since, as we each improve, we can give that much more in return to the other and to the world! Then we’ll add up to even more!”

“It is proved, my dear. QED. Two is greater than one plus one!”

( 1 + 1 > 2 )
Excellent deductive logic,I like it,thanks Austin.
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Thanks David for your last post,its great that this thread of mine has been given a new lease of life,symbols are indeed embedded within the very heart of our consciousness,
the symbol is the archetype of conscious perception,and they carry much potent energy
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Of course I think a symbol on its own is not enough to cause the right (= from your own perspective) interaction. You also need to add structure to it. It is though an important element in the path to what you want to achieve.

The symbol is the primary expression of your intention.

The symbol indicates it, structure clarifies it.
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Of course I think a symbol on its own is not enough to cause the right (= from your own perspective) interaction. You also need to add structure to it. It is though an important element in the path to what you want to achieve.

The symbol is the primary expression of your intention.

The symbol indicates it, structure clarifies it.
Intention is the prime mover of form,the motioneer of all movement?



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