[mkirkpatrick]

As I accept,and agree with the ageless wisdom,that suggests that all is alive
then I would like to suggest what that could mean to us,and what our its
ultimate implications?According to the ageless wisdom our "own" suns true
colour is blue,and we see but the outer manifestation,and not the inner
reality,the inner "reality" is as suggested,a "centre of consciousness" which
pervades far out into this or "its"solar system!It further suggests that all the
planets are too alive,but far less vibrant and intense as the sun.When we look out into the night sky,many will see stars,but these stars are in fact centres of heightened consciousness and perception!To fully accept this idea
as a fact of natural law,and the outworking of evolution on a grand scale,
would I feel completely change the way we view our very limited views on
reality,and may even result in a quantum jump in consciousness for us all?


kind regards michael

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Michael, you first have to prove such assertions are true and provable, or you just simply have another extension of faith, belief or religion___i.e., metaphysics without logic, math and or experiments, to back it up... When you can prove inanimate matter is a conscious ontic being, I may listen___until then I wait... Speculation is fine, but don't forget___that's all it is...

regards

[mkirkpatrick]

Thank you kindly,Lloyd,for your positive criticism on this thread,you ask me to prove such assertions,how would I do that then?The same way that we prove God is alive and well in heaven!If I can prove inanimate matter is con-
scious ontic being,you may listen,well that is a very gracious statement,Lloyd
look deep into matter Lyoyd,I mean real deep,gaze down into the subatomic
matrix,look deeply into that matrix Lloyd,and I will guarantee you that you will
not only become aware of a consciousness looking back at you,you will also
Instinctually feel that you are in the presence of an intelligence vastly superior than your own.Maybe that too is speculation,what do you think???

kind regards michael.

[Mohan.C]

Very true, or may be I am not qualified to say that.
Within ourselves and within everything else is the conciousness of being alive and that is fact because we know we are. Where do we get this awareness from. When do we know we are alive. Is that a question to ask. The main thing is we are alive and we are. But if you really want to ask, ask away to yourself in silence.

[harmonygirl]

Mohan, I don't know if I am qualified to say this but here goes: once you are within, you actually realize you're without as well. The barrier is an illusion.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Mohan.C Very true, or may be I am not qualified to say that. Within ourselves and within everything else is the conciousness of being alive and that is fact because we know we are. Where do we get this awareness from. When do we know we are alive. Is that a question to ask. The main thing is we are alive and we are. But if you really want to ask, ask away to yourself in silence.

Absolutely right there my friend,you do not have to take anybodies word for the "way it is" just look within yourself andask the question,the answer will come,if you persist!

Originally Posted by harmonygirl Mohan, I don't know if I am qualified to say this but here goes: once you are within, you actually realize you're without as well. The barrier is an illusion.

Well said there Harmony,I could not have put it better myself.

kind regards michael

[harmonygirl]

Actually, Michael, from the research I have been doing on Gaia, they (female Goddess societies) were more attuned to the moon than the sun...

[HappytheStripper]

Hi Michael .. Thanks for the topic .. I have given this topic some deep thought before replying ..

Yes HG .. you are quite correct in thinking .. "people are more attuned with the moon" .. as the moon rules the emotions of people .. this is why we are more attuned to the pull of the moon ,,

However .. in relation to the sun .. there is no doubt the sun is blue in depth .. I know .. Fire is my favourite topic .. that and FireMen ... hehe

I was watching the fire one night .. and it is blue in the heart .. I also looked at the flames on the gas heater .. and you will find .. a blue flame surrounds the heart of fire in a gas heater too ..

Whether this is because the sun is though-full I have no idea .. in astrology the sun is the most important aspect of a horoscope .. because it is central to the individual character of a person ..

As I understand the color blue .. it is a healing energy .. and green reflects the power of thought ..

Ashley

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl Actually, Michael, from the research I have been doing on Gaia, they (female Goddess societies) were more attuned to the moon than the sun...

You are absolutely right there Harmony,however I was thinking more of those who did see the sun as a centre of intelligence,like
the Egyptians,the Mayans,and of course not forgetting the native american
indian,who although they did place the moon in high esteem,they placed the sun still higher.

kind regards michael.

[Mohan.C]

Michael I think this is superstition. When we don't respect creatures of our own kind why should we be under submission to a will far mre owerful that it can take care of itself and does not need help. We can just look at ourselves and look after ourselves.