[mkirkpatrick]

We are points,atoms of energy that have surfaced within an ocean of consciousness,as we
are self conscious,we can reflect,ask ourselves questions,where have I come from?
Where am I going?We see after a while that we are connected and interconnected with all
manifestations,we see that on the surface we are presented with an illusion,albeit a very
real looking one!This outer illusion suggests to our outer senses,that there is,space,time,
and distance,and that there is the appearance of many differing looking things,this confusion and misunderstanding will remain while we focus on the surface of our being,but as we go within we see the folly of such misunderstanding of reality,outwardly we see the
relative universe where the illusions abound,wherethere seems to be endless space.vast
distances,great awnings of time,while within this illusion fades,and you see that you are one with all,and are in fact ominipresent,and that while within that realization the idea of
distance time or space are totally absurd!


regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

The equation is quite simple,look outwardly,into the relative universe,time and space seem to beckon you to follow,look within,into the absolute that exists and all apparent
"things" seem to be interconnected and linked together,so much so,that you cannot tell where one starts and the other begins!In a universal ever-present now,where all is Absolute and ominipresent,the very idea of "motioning somewhere" would be laughable.

We exist in two universes one is absolutely real,and eternal,the other is relative and temporal,and open to change and expansion,due to evolutional pulsing.


regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

Consciousness is ubiquitous and we are within its infinite field of operation,we are points
within this eternal field,all connected,all linked,so when this is fully realised and understood the very idea of there being distance becomes quite amusing.




regards michael.

[Graybeard]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick

Consciousness is ubiquitous and we are within its infinite field of operation, we are points within this eternal field, all connected, all linked, so when this is fully realised and understood the very idea of there being distance becomes quite amusing.
regards michael.

Michael ... You Pommy B.

Your ideas are still as ubiquitous and amusing as ever. But its great to see your still around old friend.

Wake up and smell the biological Daisies and stop thinking there is a fairy under every petal. LOL

cool bananas

[r.p.bibra]

Originally Posted by Graybeard

Michael ... You Pommy B.

Your ideas are still as ubiquitous and amusing as ever. But its great to see your still around old friend.

Wake up and smell the biological Daisies and stop thinking there is a fairy under every petal. LOL

cool bananas

Welcome back friend, you are a well aware person, why should you be mislead by illogical utterances of some 'believers' who repose faith only in the hearsay! There is a human body, a mind an intelligence, which are very much 'visible' and experiential, why not probe their potentialities and seek within them the core of their 'reality'? We discover nature and its mysteries by using our intelligence, which again is the property embodied from nature; why don't we try to understand the 'principles' of nature by which it is governed by using the same tools? Don’t pay much heed to what religiosity say, as their approach is very limited and confined within the boundaries of sensory world. The highest attainment which any so-called ‘realistic’ ‘Nirvana’ could attain was by virtue of controlling the vagaries of senses. Senses are but the part of our body? So what is to be realized, the control of the senses; the activation of the intelligence----which is acquired knowledge, hence very limited in scope---or some extra-sensory intelligence? None, my dear as none of these qualities attached to realms of sensory world are of any use to realize ‘that’ we see! What we seek is the reality of this creation, and creation is not other than the creation we are the part of? All that the religiosity and spiritualist proclaim is not in the regions beyond, but within the biological unit of the nature, the body. Body is the centre of investigation and herein lies the ‘reality’ of ‘being’. Delve deep in, deeper than its structural systems, and try to find within it its inner-core-reality, you will definitely find, there is ‘life-principle’ embedded in it. Like all the particles in the cosmos are conscious, the cells of the body are also as much conscious and aware. Your way back to the creation is via fossils, the body cells/particles (their sum-history) would guide us back to the ‘reality’ of our origin. What is so unique about it? The only thing unique in this world is human-being, and study of human being is the study of nature and consequently of the creation! Love&regards.ls

[Graybeard]

Originally Posted by r.p.bibra

Welcome back friend, you are a well aware person, why should you be mislead by illogical utterances of some 'believers' who repose faith only in the hearsay! ..................................

So what is to be realized,

a.. The control of the senses

b.. The activation of the intelligence----which is acquired knowledge, hence very limited in scope

c.. Or some extra-sensory intelligence?

None, my dear as none of these qualities attached to realms of sensory world are of any use to realize ‘that’ we see! What we seek is the reality of this creation, and creation is not other than the creation we are the part of?

All that the religiosity and spiritualist proclaim is not in the regions beyond, but within the biological unit of the nature, the body. Body is the centre of investigation and herein lies the ‘reality’ of ‘being’.

Like all the particles in the cosmos are conscious, the cells of the body are also as much conscious and aware. Your way back to the creation is via fossils, the body cells/particles (their sum-history) would guide us back to the ‘reality’ of our origin.

What is so unique about it? The only thing unique in this world is human-being, and study of human being is the study of nature and consequently of the creation! Love&regards.ls

Hello Rajinder ... Very glad to be talking to you again. Forgive me for teasing Michael ... I actually find a lot of common ground in his first post, this thread. But I can't let him know that or he will think I have come over to his side. LOL.

Rajinder, I can find nothing at all to disagree with you regarding your post. It took me a while to digest it, but I agree with it.

Forgive me if, as you rightly say, my way back is 'thru the fossils'. This does not mean we are on a different journey. You are perceptive and do not require the the 't's to be crossed and the 'i's to be dotted. I am not like this, for me it is harder as I have to find explanations (empirical) before I can proceed.

You once advised me to look closer in my own backyard in a comment on my blog, Calcutta.

Originally Posted by r.p.bibra

GREG HAVE YOU EVER GIVEN A THOUGHT AS TO WHERE THE ORIGINAL CITIZENS OF Australia, USA,Canada etc have gone, if so pl. shed some light of your enlightenment on this aspect of humanity also? love&regards,ls.

Your advice was not lightly read and discarded, if you go to the following post you will see verification that I took your advice.

(by the way, in this thread my user name is Danggali) Click Here

Be patient with me, one day, you, myself and Michael will meet up and we will have a beer together. This will be possible, because, as Michael says, there is no distance at all between us, literally or figuratively.

cool bananas ... greg

[r.p.bibra]

hello greg, danggali is already on my favorite list.love&regards.ls

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Graybeard

Hello Rajinder ... Very glad to be talking to you again. Forgive me for teasing Michael ... I actually find a lot of common ground in his first post, this thread. But I can't let him know that or he will think I have come over to his side. LOL.

Rajinder, I can find nothing at all to disagree with you regarding your post. It took me a while to digest it, but I agree with it.

Forgive me if, as you rightly say, my way back is 'thru the fossils'. This does not mean we are on a different journey. You are perceptive and do not require the the 't's to be crossed and the 'i's to be dotted. I am not like this, for me it is harder as I have to find explanations (empirical) before I can proceed.

You once advised me to look closer in my own backyard in a comment on my blog, Calcutta.



Your advice was not lightly read and discarded, if you go to the following post you will see verification that I took your advice.

(by the way, in this thread my user name is Danggali) Click Here

Be patient with me, one day, you, myself and Michael will meet up and we will have a beer together. This will be possible, because, as Michael says, there is no distance at all between us, literally or figuratively.

cool bananas ... greg

We wıll ındeed meet up my frıend.ı wıll however have a cup of tea ınstead of the beer.
keep postıng you aussıe nıce man

regards mıchael