[mkirkpatrick]

Imagine that you are indeed a ubiquitous being,then the whole idea of travel or distance
would,or could not exist!The very mention of it would be absurd and ludicrous!How could
you possible "go" anywhere that you were not already present at?
You would be the everywhere man!Or quantum non local person?

What then is "distance"(away from here,to there)?Could not distance really be just an
illusion?If the universe is really connected and interconnected by an etheric web,then
all "apparent" forms (stars,planets,etc)are all touching one another,and further there
is absolutely no space at all in between each and everyone.

I think we all seem to share a collective illusion,fooled by our senses,and blinded by
the spiel of limited understanding.


regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

Journey to where?What are the "real" implications of motioning!Going somewhere,prehaps
if we really examine the need to transverse and cover distance,we will find that we are
already there?
It is only when we use our limited understanding of reality,that we "think"we see a way
to travel!As we turn our gaze within,and refocus our perceptions,we begin to see the
connections to all "apparent "things,and that a star,that science tells you is 10 million
light years away,is in reality,no further than the shoes on your feet??
This is possible because "distance""the space between here and there,is basically false.
and is an illusion!
When and if you accept that the universe,and absolutely all that is manifested within it
is interconnected,and interwoven within the etheric fabric,which provides the "field" for
manifestation to "become",then it becomes obvious that words like,space,distance,
travel,and journey,have absolutely no relevance or meaning whatsoever.

Man has been a prisoner of this and many other collective illusions for centuries,hopefully
the lid of this falsehood has been lifted up,hopefully soon this effect will be felt by the many.

regards michael.

[gautam]

Thats a great philosophical idea Michael, and going by that your friend sitting next you is perhaps a million light years away.But we are condemned or say blessed to search for truth in universe where all our perceptions are absurd.Our senses are developed as a reaction to the reality therefore whatever we observe is our truth. Do you think we can reach anywhere by not following that truth? We may perhaps realise the ultimate truth but
that will be again a realisation. We shall that way find our own toe , A UNIQUE AND PERHAPS A DIFFERENT TOE OF EVERYONE
Warm regards
Gautam

[Mike 5]

hello hello!

mkirk you put your finger on the trigger here. It is very hard to think this through, but having tried this several times over the past year or so, I am thinking there is some, maybe a lot of truth possible in what you say here.

Distance is the fabric of the "illusion" if reality is indeed an illusion or "maya".

Distance is one side of the coin and time is the other, as soon as you think of distance you need time to travel it. As soon as you think of time, it only can work if you have distance to travel to take time, I think, is that right?

I like the idea the reality is an enfolded origami. But the folds create distance and time as they appear to us, so perhaps the word fold is misleading. Maybe the word fractal is like an unfolding? MAYBE it is all origami backwards - imagori?

However, in practical terms, I just flew back from Angor Wat to Canterbury and the fact is, it appeared a lot of distance and took time. So in practical terms, there seems little to do about whatever is underneath the appearance. We are trapped in the apearance, and whether by will or flow, we get our experiences one mouthful at a time...

Mike 5

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Imagine that you are indeed a ubiquitous being,then the whole idea of travel or distance would,or could not exist!The very mention of it would be absurd and ludicrous!How could you possible "go" anywhere that you were not already present at? You would be the everywhere man!Or quantum non local person? What then is "distance"(away from here,to there)?Could not distance really be just an illusion?If the universe is really connected and interconnected by an etheric web,then all "apparent" forms (stars,planets,etc)are all touching one another,and further there is absolutely no space at all in between each and everyone. I think we all seem to share a collective illusion,fooled by our senses,and blinded by the spiel of limited understanding. regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

Mike5,manythanks for your comments,You have made a very valid point there Mike5,
with regard origami spelt backwards!Imaginori??
The illusion exists and persists only in the outer and relative sense,as you experienced
on your longflight home.
If you follow the projection backwards,you will find that all things,become thing,and the many become one!
Time.space,distance,are all illusions,tricking us into making calculations about something
that has never existed,is it any wonder that the numbers do not add up?

The one universe,is at one,and each apparent part,touches the other,there are no spaces,
no distances,no time also,all are collective illusions.


regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

Gautam,many thanks for your comments,As you well know,my friend,man has been fooled by the outer appearances of a false reality,or rather a relative one!Although those of the east knew of the inner reality centuries ago.
Only when science and the branches of physics learn and fully understand the inner nature of reality,and see how it is all intertwined and interconnected,then they will see,
that,if you follow the "outer" into the"inner" you will observe the beginning of ubiquitousity
and the merging of all "things" into thing!

Then the very idea of distance and travel will become hilarious and exceedingly absurd?

regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

When we are submerged and deeply embedded into this relative universe,it is well nigh
impossible to not be directly and indirectly involved in the concept of distance.
Each day we find the need to go somewhere,whether it be to work,or just to the local store.
As long as we focus outside of ourselves,we will remain within this relative illusion,now
while we are in physical form we have to abide bythe relative laws of this realm,but when we go within,and begin to discover our true being,and our universal nature,we can begin
to see that the relative universe is only a projection of the real universe,back of all this
"formalization",then when this realization takes place with our consciousness,we see that
indeed there is no need to travel,you are there already?


regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

We are travellers that move in many realms and dimensions,from the gross physical
realm,to the higher spiritual realms,we are inner and outer beings,on the outer aspect,
we are firmly within temporal space,the relative universe,where things like time,space,
and distance all "seem" to exist,but when we turn our gaze inwards,and ajust our focus,
we find that we gain entrance into another realm,which is not temporal,and that here,time
and space and distance have no meaning.

regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

Distance,motion,exist only and wholly within the physical universe,we are of course
locked into this cycle,on an outer level,but there is an inner level as well,one where
the very idea of motion would be laughable,the inner reality is simply that all life is
ubiquitous,and eternal,where could you possibly go where you are not already present?


Motion,like the other two imposters time and space,are relative illusions,that cast a
shadow and hide the inner stillness.

regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

Becoming is the way of evolution,we are unfolding and opening up just as a flower does
before the morning sun.Becoming implies the need for motion,and motion is the way of
unfoldment,and expansion of consciousness.

At our inner core we are being,at the outer we are becoming,when the two meet there
is a quantum shift in conscious awareness.

At the inner level we are ubiquitous and distance is completely unknown to us,at the
outer level it seems very real?



regards michael.