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I maintain that the primary wave(the formational wave)arose from the Absolute,and became the prime mover,the first wave to wash into the void,and bring about the
relative physical universe.

Motion was born of the will,and the will gave birth to the creational "formational" first
wave,within this primal-wave was all the principles that would later become activated
after the involutionary cycle was complete.


Consciousness could be called "the rider of the will"as it expresses the "outer" aspect
of it,while the "inner"(deeper) aspect could be described as the life/soul/spirit,of the
will.



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I like this tread.

I believe the will as alluded to is...in scripture called "the Whim" of God?... correct my thinking of this if it's wrong...

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I like this tread.

I believe the will as alluded to is...in scripture called "the Whim" of God?... correct my thinking of this if it's wrong...

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Hello there Drifter,a whim sounds relative to me,whereas the will seems more profound
and deep with an absolute feel to it!



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Hello there Drifter,a whim sounds relative to me,whereas the will seems more profound
and deep with an absolute feel to it!



regards michael.
I dunno michael... will implies intent to me.[though I may have them backwards here or they one and the same?]
"Possesion of will" Turkish o gitti will be
translated the same as ... wish, desire, intent, command, purpose or consequence show the actions...
I think the Universe could have been a totally unforseen [before logic] A Priori accident by nobody?
A kind of implosion/explosion/divide of an unknown X capacity.
Maybe a Super Dimensional Torus we humans do not have the instruments to measure.
Does Space really have a "boundary"/Perimeter?

Couldn't constellations as we know them be nothing more than elements, particles or compounds in some unfathomable Oceannic void or something?

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I dunno michael... will implies intent to me.[though I may have them backwards here or they one and the same?]
"Possesion of will" Turkish o gitti will be
translated the same as ... wish, desire, intent, command, purpose or consequence show the actions...
I think the Universe could have been a totally unforseen [before logic] A Priori accident by nobody?
A kind of implosion/explosion/divide of an unknown X capacity.
Maybe a Super Dimensional Torus we humans do not have the instruments to measure.
Does Space really have a "boundary"/Perimeter?

Couldn't constellations as we know them be nothing more than elements, particles or compounds in some unfathomable Oceannic void or something?

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Drifter,intent is the hallmark of the real,that which IS.Absolute intent to bare form and
bring motion from within absolute motionlessness.Absolute consciousness giving the
appearence of relativity to ensure evolution fufils its purpose.

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Drifter,intent is the hallmark of the real,that which IS.Absolute intent to bare form and
bring motion from within absolute motionlessness.Absolute consciousness giving the
appearence of relativity to ensure evolution fufils its purpose.

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So will is like voltage and intent is like amperage?

Or is the Absolute like Amperage & Will like Voltage and Relativity & like Resistance or a current consuming device???
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I dunno michael... will implies intent to me.[though I may have them backwards here or they one and the same?]
"Possesion of will" Turkish o gitti will be
translated the same as ... wish, desire, intent, command, purpose or consequence show the actions...
Drifter if you take the last word in your above post, you find the word for "Will". That is "Action". The "Action" of "Will" by our universe gave it self determination. Before this "Act" of "Will", the universe was at the mercy of "infinity and eternity".

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Does Space really have a "boundary"/Perimeter?

Couldn't constellations as we know them be nothing more than elements, particles or compounds in some unfathomable Oceannic void or something.
Space is an medium of infinite "Potential", without boundaries or time. Not a nobody but a "nothing". Within this medium a "something" arose, giving finite "Action" to infinite "Potential".
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Drifter if you take the last word in your above post, you find the word for "Will". That is "Action". The "Action" of "Will" by our universe gave it self determination. Before this "Act" of "Will", the universe was at the mercy of "infinity and eternity".



Space is an medium of infinite "Potential", without boundaries or time. Not a nobody but a "nothing". Within this medium a "something" arose, giving finite "Action" to infinite "Potential".
Thanks Poppa,

This type debate revealed my current understanding of the Awareness vs. Consciousness differece/dilema/dichotmy that I now possess. (Discovery is a very worthwile/satisfying objective...don't you think?)

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'Twas a whirl and a twirl in the infinite space of a finite medium, all that's its limited 'will' could do in winding up the energy. Similar for our will that has more options coming from memory, emotions, associations and all that we've amounted to up to the instant.
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Motion arose from within Absolute Mind-from where else could it possibly arise??From within Absolute mind arose idea to "inform" and give substance (spin and motion)to bring
about a "temporal field" from which could arise through willed INTENT consciousness clothed in form.

The first and only real wave to wash over temporal space is that of willed intent,the Absolute taking on the "appearence" of being relative and unfolding its will through the
sequenced orchestrations of evolutions unfolding principles.


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Drifter if you take the last word in your above post, you find the word for "Will". That is "Action". The "Action" of "Will" by our universe gave it self determination. Before this "Act" of "Will", the universe was at the mercy of "infinity and eternity".



Space is an medium of infinite "Potential", without boundaries or time. Not a nobody but a "nothing". Within this medium a "something" arose, giving finite "Action" to infinite "Potential".
Is That to say, It HAD, in order to BE?
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