Sleepwalking: A Scientific Philosophy.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Emotional decisions can make one happy,

In everyday life as lived,
Even for such as what the TOE should be,
But, there, they can get in the way of the light of truth.

Neither love not hate will be of any help, in TOE,
But even of some hindrance
In the full absorbence of
The meaning inherent in fact or theory.

Just like me not knowing the meaning of 'personified', yet thinking I did, can put one into an emotional interpretation mode...

This may be more what is going on with differences of people's ideas than anything else. It's those peskey lil' ol' words we think we know the meanings to, and never even consider looking em up, that catch so many__and trap them down paths they hadn't intended to travel... Maybe...???

[Nobody Nowhere]

Then how does that explain quarks, etc., inside of protons, and some other than asymptotic freedom...??? The onion theory...???

This has always been the real Pauli Principle bug-a-boo for me... As far as my reading of him, it only applied to electrons... So, according to theory, the sub-particles of the proton had to be built first, then the proton shell last, yet photons are allowed everywhere__tricky lil' buggers, ain't they...??? And w and z bosons can't go anywhere... Something's wrong with this picture... w-, w+ and z giant...

Exactly, photons don't adhere to the principle, nor would gravitons and the higgs' (which would be the aether singularity/ies). Fermions are the offshoots, and aren't really necessary if we replace oscillation with particle annihilation to give us our dual-directional vector.

Further, a singularity would be like 10^-100000000000............. and could not rotate if serving as the axial point for rotation. That's why I asked Graham for the cause of rotation or torque, as I think it answers alot of questions. For me anyway.

I tried taking the teeth outta those green guys, but it didn't work. lol

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Exactly, photons don't adhere to the principle, nor would gravitons and the higgs' (which would be the aether singularity/ies). Fermions are the offshoots, and aren't really necessary if we replace oscillation with particle annihilation to give us our dual-directional vector.

Further, a singularity would be like 10^-100000000000............. and could not rotate if serving as the axial point for rotation. That's why I asked Graham for the cause of rotation or torque, as I think it answers alot of questions. For me anyway.

I tried taking the teeth outta those green guys, but it didn't work. lol

Nobody, ya better check the limits of Planck scales__You're a lil' off the Richter scale, here I think, or according to what conversion and metric you're referring to...???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_...itude_(volume)

The rest of Planck, etc., measurement scales are listed at bottom of page...

Even then, science can only measure half way to Planck limits, yet...

[austintorn@aol.com]

This may be more what is going on with differences of people's ideas than anything else. It's those peskey lil' ol' words we think we know the meanings to, and never even consider looking em up, that catch so many__and trap them down paths they hadn't intended to travel... Maybe...???

Yes, a few slips and wishes, and then one is going down the slippery slope, where, amazingly, even more stuff is piled on. Even "nature of the earth" can be suggestive of a spirit of the Earth, and on towards a Guy, for whom then people even speak for, and so on, having one foot on a banana peel and the other on empty holes.


I don't really know about particle cores, but they can't be compressed too much, such as a Brown dwarf can only get so small, or was it a white dwarf. (Note: this does not mean elves, anyone. You should see my poem on Elfin Legends, but note "legends".)

[Nobody Nowhere]

Nobody, ya better check the limits of Planck scales__You're a lil' off the Richter scale, here I think, or according to what conversion and metric you're referring to...???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_...itude_(volume)

The rest of Planck, etc., measurement scales are listed at bottom of page...

Even then, science can only measure half way to Planck limits, yet...

Just trying to keep things out of perspective, Lloyd. In the nothing thread you said we were extending the finite limits of science, so we have to be able to discern the axial point from the physical motion surrounding it. And to do this I extend the dimensionless constant of h to the zero-dimensional constant of the singularity.

[austintorn@aol.com]

Just trying to keep things out of perspective, Lloyd. In the nothing thread you said we were extending the finite limits of science, so we have to be able to discern the axial point from the physical motion surrounding it. And to do this I extend the dimensionless constant of h to the zero-dimensional constant of the singularity.

There would still be dimensions:

HyperVolume =

(hc/Density) =
(E, w(wavelength) ) / D)

So we see that the dimensional units of hc/D are:

(energy*time * distance/time) / (energy/distance^3)

Giving

(energy*distance) * (distance^3/energy) = distance^4

(not even having to deal
With the dimensional units of energy for the moment!)

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Just trying to keep things out of perspective, Lloyd. In the nothing thread you said we were extending the finite limits of science, so we have to be able to discern the axial point from the physical motion surrounding it. And to do this I extend the dimensionless constant of h to the zero-dimensional constant of the singularity.

Oh, I think I finally see what you're getting at here__"How does a micro-particle's center go in all directions required of the wave functions__All at once...???" Good question...??? It's like the scalar wave leaving a super-nova I mentioned__"How does it fill/cross the entire 8 billion 3D volume of space it's passing through, without breaking the laws of motion's speed limits, at the spread on the sphere's entire 3D circumference...??? Imo, this is where Huygens' math breaks down... Sure, there can be millions of layers of photons, but how does the wave-front function work, to fill every point of space...??? For some reason, my mind can't quite grasp it... To me, the spread requires more energy than exists, yet these distant waves arrive here all the time, daily+__and, if they arrive at our point in space, there's no reason to think they aren't arriving at all points on the 3D scalar wave-sphere's leading edge... Huygens did show his drawings of wave fronts as multiple arcs, and that's the only way I can visualize it... I'll have to read him again__his Treatise on Light is on my old computer...

Too many questions__without enough words...

[Nobody Nowhere]

There would still be dimensions:

HyperVolume =

(hc/Density) =
(E, w(wavelength) ) / D)

So we see that the dimensional units of hc/D are:

(energy*time * distance/time) / (energy/distance^3)

Giving

(energy*distance) * (distance^3/energy) = distance^4

(not even having to deal
With the dimensional units of energy for the moment!)

I grab a sandwich and all hell breaks loose. lol

I think you're referring to a Minkowski space which has time, whereas Euclidean space has no time. The gravitational singularity represents then the 3-D point where t=0 without volume.

[Nobody Nowhere]

Oh, I think I finally see what you're getting at here__"How does a micro-particle's center go in all directions required of the wave functions__All at once...???" Good question...??? It's like the scalar wave leaving a super-nova I mentioned__"How does it fill/cross the entire 8 billion 3D volume of space it's passing through, without breaking the laws of motion's speed limits, at the spread on the sphere's entire 3D circumference...??? Imo, this is where Huygens' math breaks down... Sure, there can be millions of layers of photons, but how does the wave-front function work, to fill every point of space...??? For some reason, my mind can't quite grasp it... To me, the spread requires more energy than exists, yet these distant waves arrive here all the time, daily+__and, if they arrive at our point in space, there's no reason to think they aren't arriving at all points on the 3D scalar wave-sphere's leading edge... Huygens did show his drawings of wave fronts as multiple arcs, and that's the only way I can visualize it... I'll have to read him again__his Treatise on Light is on my old computer...

Too many questions__without enough words...

Is this what you mean?

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Images...uygenshort.swf

[Lloyd Gillespie]

I grab a sandwich and all hell breaks loose. lol

I think you're referring to a Minkowski space which has time, whereas Euclidean space has no time. The gravitational singularity represents then the 3-D point where t=0 without volume.

Nobody, since time is distance/dimension, then if space exists__Time/distance is absolutely required to necessarily exist__or you're just referring to creation moments, which never exist, due to the necessity of eternity of all matter, mass, energy, and motion... Throw away t=0__It's a creation myth metric...