Telepathy makes an impression on the mind?

[dolly]

hi mkirkpatrick. found your 09/27/2005 post intriguing. have a true story for you. 20 some years ago a friend of mine (lets call her mary) had a dream. when she awoke she was compelled to relay the dream to her friend (lets call her jane who it so happens was in the dream). mary relayed the dream to jane in extreme specific detail, i.e. persons, room appearance etc. some of which neither of them were familiar with. approximately 3 months later the dream took place in the exact same manner. mary confessed this had happened before and is to this day. any thoughts as to whether there's a plausable explaination or just one of those coincidental thing/things. mary would rather they didn't happen at all.

[mkirkpatrick]

hi mkirkpatrick. found your 09/27/2005 post intriguing. have a true story for you. 20 some years ago a friend of mine (lets call her mary) had a dream. when she awoke she was compelled to relay the dream to her friend (lets call her jane who it so happens was in the dream). mary relayed the dream to jane in extreme specific detail, i.e. persons, room appearance etc. some of which neither of them were familiar with. approximately 3 months later the dream took place in the exact same manner. mary confessed this had happened before and is to this day. any thoughts as to whether there's a plausable explaination or just one of those coincidental thing/things. mary would rather they didn't happen at all.

Welcome Dolly,and thanks for putting life back into this poor neglected thread,I too have had similar experiences,we are all linked mind to mind,it is just that we don't always "feel"
or are sensitive enough to register it in our conscious mind.

Time as we think it is,is really an illusion,all there really is, is now and now includes all past and future happenings,when conditions are right,and we are in tune,we can tap into
which for us in this now of today,is a future event.


regards michael.

[sillysally]

What about when you answer someones thoughts, out loud, immediately after they think them and they are sure they didn't say anything out loud? Is that mental telepathy? I know the intuition telepathy, that's like getting someone a glass of water before they ask for it, maybe they just think it but you don't actually hear it. The hear one is what usually freaks people out. It doesn't bother me coz it sounds like someone talking directly but it usually freaks the thinker out when they are answered as though they are in midst of conversation.

[mkirkpatrick]

What about when you answer someones thoughts, out loud, immediately after they think them and they are sure they didn't say anything out loud? Is that mental telepathy? I know the intuition telepathy, that's like getting someone a glass of water before they ask for it, maybe they just think it but you don't actually hear it. The hear one is what usually freaks people out. It doesn't bother me coz it sounds like someone talking directly but it usually freaks the thinker out when they are answered as though they are in midst of conversation.

I know what you mean Sillysally,this often happens with my wife and I.Intuition plays
a part and is a vast subject called the science of impressions.



warm regards michael.

[leskey]

Science will soon begin to see the connections between telepathy and the existence of the human soul,when this happens there will be a giant leap in the understanding of how this universe works (behind the scenes)so to speak.

Hi, Michael.

This is somewhat belated, but are you referring to any particular field of research in this quote?

[mkirkpatrick]

Hi, Michael.

This is somewhat belated, but are you referring to any particular field of research in this quote?

Hello there leskey,i have sent you a pm,one field of research is into the reality of the human soul,when this is more widely accepted and understood,then telepathy will be
seen as a natural abilty inherit within us.


regards michael

[G_burnett]

What about when you answer someones thoughts, out loud, immediately after they think them and they are sure they didn't say anything out loud? Is that mental telepathy? I know the intuition telepathy, that's like getting someone a glass of water before they ask for it, maybe they just think it but you don't actually hear it. The hear one is what usually freaks people out. It doesn't bother me coz it sounds like someone talking directly but it usually freaks the thinker out when they are answered as though they are in midst of conversation.

empathy, cognative ability of the human persona to calculate the other ...?

graham

[labelwench]

The coincidence of shared thought or sensation has been experienced by many, though as yet, there has been no conclusive evidence to support this phenomenon consistently.

For that reason, many persons who experience and act on their 'gut feelings' or 'innermost thoughts', prefer not to engage in dialogue save with those whom also have encountered and endured the 'unexplainable'.

Society now, as in the past, tends to discriminate against and marginalize those whom they do not understand, and in some respects, this is a collective safety measure, for there are those charlatans who utilize any means to insinuate themselves into the hearts, minds and pocketbooks of those whom they can take advantage of.

Yet there are others who seek no compensation or recognition, and use such energy, though they do not always understand it or are able to control it, solely in the service of others or instinctual preservation of the self, intending and doing no harm. One of my areas of interest, I await any and all results with an open mind. LW

Fringe Science: Testing telepathy
Scalp electroencephalographs (EEGs) are used to test telepathy. To measure brain activity, electrodes are placed on the scalp and signals are recorded on a computer.

This article was published on Jan 8, 2009 in the Science section
KEN EULER takes a look at thought-transference in the first installment of a multi-part series that investigates the stranger side of science
Ken Euler

Ever pick up the phone and already know who’s on the other end? How about knowing what your friend is going to say before telling you? Imagine having this advantageous ability in an exam, allowing you to tap into the thoughts of the smart kid. These examples illustrate the apparent ability known as telepathy, or the ability to communicate information between organisms, disregarding visual, auditory, and somatic perceptual systems.

While extremely controversial, researchers over the past two decades have worked together to examine the possible validity of telepathic experiences. This culminated in the development of the Ganzfeld studies, a large group of experiments guided by protocols developed in 1987 by a partnership between telepathy proponent Charles Honorton and Dr. Ray Hyman, a skeptic of the phenomena.

This experimental protocol involved a “sender” who would view a randomly selected image on a computer screen, and mentally send the image to a “receiver” situated in a neighbouring soundproof room. Following the sending session, the “receiver” would choose between one of four images, with an expected hit-rate—how often the receiver identifies the correct image out of four possible choices—of 25 per cent given no telepathic effect. A meta-analysis conducted in 2001 revealed an overall significant hit-rate of 30.1 per cent, suggesting telepathic experiences may be valid.

Following publication, debate ensued due to a lack of converging lines of evidence, suggesting the significant findings may simply be statistical anomalies. To resolve this problem, scientists turned their attention to a different means of examining telepathy in relation to specific brain activity. Within the last few years, electroencephalograph (EEG) methods have been employed.

In 2005, lead researcher Dr. Leila Kozak and her team from the University of Washington and University of Bastyr conducted EGG studies that aimed to reveal if brain activity in one brain could cause activity in another. The experimental protocol involved pairs of people attached to EEG monitors, one being the “sender” and one being the “receiver.” The “sender” was placed in a soundproof room in front of a computer monitor that randomly presented images at different times. This technique was used to evoke a response, namely brain activity measured with the EEG. Throughout the duration of the trial, the “sender” was to keep the “receiver”—who was stationed 10 meters away in a different room—in his or her mind. If the “sender” saw an image or experienced brain activity, and the “receiver” experienced similar brain activity, it would suggest the occurrence of telepathic-like communication between brains. Furthermore, it would suggest telepathic communication is mediated in part by the brain. The results of the study revealed significant correlation between brain activity levels of the participants.

As of 2009, there has not been a meta-analysis conducted that has pooled all EEG telepathy experimental data, so it is difficult to be certain how common the results found by Dr. Kozak and her colleagues are. Nevertheless, her study was later replicated in three other labs worldwide and, combined with the results of the Ganzfeld experiments, builds a case that this phenomena may be legitimate.

Over the next decade, the telepathy debate will continue. With current research just beginning to explore telepathy with functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI), researchers may be able to determine which, if any, brain areas mediate the hypothesized telepathic effect. Moreover, if the phenomenon is to be accepted, it will also need an explanation detailing what is taking place physically. This is a tall order given contemporary physics is very powerful and does not explicitly have room for “spooky” energy travelling outside of the electromagnetic spectrum. Alternatively, telepathy may turn out to be a bunch of hocus-pocus.

[labelwench]

I'm just cruising around for a while, finding some new bits on this subject, as I haven't been looking in some time.
Before anyone gets the urge to go ballistic with a rebuttal, please note that I am just digging up information. Knock yourself out, if it pleases you, but don't expect a debate from me. I have an open mind (or an empty head, if you prefer, lol....) on the topic. LW



If you are still "old" school about telepathy, then this thread is not for you... Throw out everything you've ever read about telepathy and get ready to learn the how and why behind modern telepathy studies!

In this thread you may want to debate the results of the scientific studies reguarding this field but by no means will any type of "ridicule" be accepted and trolls be warned, you will be booted!

First off, the ELF ( Extremely Low Frequency Radiation) and the human brain and the different brain wave states...
The human body emits a very unique form of radiation that some have come to call that aura... It can be photographed and measured.

It is well known that the brain is an electrochemical organ; researchers have speculated that a fully functioning brain can generate as much as 10 watts of electrical power.

Even though this electrical power is very limited, it does occur in very specific ways that are characteristic of the human brain. Electrical activity emanating from the brain is displayed in the form of brainwaves. There are four categories of these brainwaves, ranging from the most activity to the least activity. When the brain is aroused and actively engaged in mental activities, it generates beta waves. These beta waves are of relatively low amplitude, and are the fastest of the four different brainwaves. The frequency of beta waves ranges from 15 to 40 cycles a second. Beta waves are characteristics of a strongly engaged mind. A person in active conversation would be in beta. A debater would be in high beta. A person making a speech, or a teacher, or a talk show host would all be in beta when they are engaged in their work.

The next brainwave category in order of frequency is alpha. Where beta represented arousal, alpha represents non-arousal. Alpha brainwaves are slower, and higher in amplitude. Their frequency ranges from 9 to 14 cycles per second. A person who has completed a task and sits down to rest is often in an alpha state. A person who takes time out to reflect or meditate is usually in an alpha state. A person who takes a break from a conference and walks in the garden is often in an alpha state. This is the state of the brain we study when we talk about telepathy.

Research has shown that although one brainwave state may predominate at any given time, depending on the activity level of the individual, the remaining three brain states are present in the mix of brainwaves at all times. In other words, while somebody is an aroused state and exhibiting a beta brainwave pattern, there also exists in that person's brain a component of alpha, theta and delta, even though these may be present only at the trace level.

The presence of ambient Extremely Low Frequency Radiation (ELF) waves has again been verified. This data has the remarkable property of being of geometric form, with the frequencies occurring almost exclusively as multiples of 4 Hz. It appears reasonable to conclude that the frequencies being captured are likely of artificial design with an undeclared purpose. The human brain operates primarily within the same range of frequencies that are repeatedly being recorded. The graph above shows the unusual nature of this data;(data privi)

A most unexpected and unusual result of the current work is the role that the human being can assume in the detection of these frequencies. It has been found that the human organism, acting in conjunction with the primary large inductance coil (antenna) of the circuit, provides sufficient amplification to the signal to allow reliable detection and logging of the data. That is to say, if a human runs a wire in parallel from the skin to the inductor lead, the geometric form of these frequencies is easily detected. It appears, therefore, that the human being acts in some sort of resonant or amplification capacity with this particular circuit.

In other words...


The living brain(of any animal) emits brain waves and ELF(almost as does a radio transmitter or TV station)... The human body is of a particular manner in that it can act as an antennea in picking up these waves and certain patterns!

[labelwench]

Third one's a charm, lol.....That's enough reading for any who are interested, as a start. Really should leave some of the fun bits for others to discover and share. LW

January 16, 2010
Quantum Physics And Becoming Telepathic
Telepathic

Telepathy is a subject of much debate, with many people convinced that this is something which exists only in the realms of fantasy and science fiction. However, just think of this: in our world, we fly all over the globe regularly, information comes to us in invisible waves to our computers and phones. There are a lot of things in our daily life which would seem entirely too fantastic to be believed, even a few decades ago.


As little as a century ago people would have denied that much of what science and technology has accomplished is impossible. It is true that when technology is advanced enough it is seemingly indistinguishable from magic. Consider what we have been able to do. Not only have we left footprints on the moon, we have also walked along the bottom of the ocean. And as we look to the future we consider our current knowledge to be rather primitive. Yet we have not only harnessed the energy of the wind, water and even the sun, we have also put them to work for us. A century ago, no-one could know that we would one day carry a small device in our pockets that would enable us to communicate with anyone, anytime, anywhere and in a variety of ways.

With all the things that mankind has accomplished that to people living only one hundred years ago would have seemed beyond our abilities, surely then it could be that people who are telepathic are merely operating under scientific principles that we do not yet understand. Yet so often these people are viewed as fake and operating in a world of mysticism.

Paraphysics and parapsychology are the areas of study which cover the investigation of telepathic abilities in people. Just as with any other branch of the sciences, parapsychologists and paraphysicists use the scientific method in their efforts to learn more about telepathy and other phenomenon.

Some telepath experiments have produced intriguing results. But nothing is accepted as 'scientific' unless it's shown to be measurable, consistent, and repeatable. Unfortunately, telepathy experiment results usually fall short on the consistent or repeatable parts, so that many doubt the truth of telepathy. Then there are researchers who argue that this is merely like Edison's experiments to create the light bulb-he failed 10,000 times before he finally got it right, but that never meant that electric lights were 'not real'. They say we just have to design better experiments around this phenomenon.

Is it possible for humans to use telepathic abilities, communicating with each other using only thought? After all, there are communications technologies which we can't see, hear, smell, touch or taste but are very real ? ever seen a radio wave? Of course not, but you know that they are real. Our minds are not radio transmitters, however.

..Or, is it? Electrical and magnetic fields generated by the brain have been scientifically proven to exist-and they are called 'thought waves'. MRI technology and a lot of neuroscience investigations depend on these thought waves. To put it simply, this is the key that should open up the door on telepathy.

Although it sounds complicated, scientifically speaking, our thoughts are nothing more than neurons being moved between different synapses with our brain. But what has been thoroughly proven is that when these neurons are transferring between the synapses they create a small electrical current which also produces a small magnetic field. And this can be measured. Despite their tiny size it helps to remember that there are literally tens of thousands of synapses firing at any particular time.

So now we are left with a few rather important questions to ponder. For instance, do the electrical and magnetic waves mentioned above also carry content? Surely it does not just produce the brain?s equivalent of useless static? And if these waves do carry content does that play a part in people being able to communicate with each other using only their minds to do so? Of course the next most obvious question would be that considering that, would it be possible to control these brain waves if they have had some kind of training? Perhaps techniques such as controlled thought and meditation can actually be used to mould the waves into a form of meaningful communication.

There is also trouble with the weakness of the brain's electromagnetic field. The common, ubiquitous electromagnetic fields of modern devices like televisions, computers, stereo systems, refrigerators, microwave ovens are all larger than the brain?s; therefore likely interfere with the brains.

However, science has discovered that during times when we are afraid, in pain, feeling threatened or in shock the brain produces a spike in bio-electrical and bio-magnetic brain waves. This spike occurs during a heightened emotional state, because our synapses are firing more neurons between them at the same time.

When a mother who is far away from her child suddenly knows that her child is in danger, her synapses are firing more neurons simultaneously and parapsychologists have been able to document these brief instances of telepathy. This raises the question then that if we detect a spike in bio-electrical and bio-magnetic brainwaves, does that mean that there is a link between that and telepathic communication?

As of yet, parapsychology researchers have not gathered sufficient evidence to definitively prove the existence of telepathy, at least in terms of mainstream scientific acceptance. The scales are starting to shift, however as more and more evidence suggests that telepathic communication is a real phenomenon which can be taught to anyone with the proper training.