Profound thoughts are faster than light.

[RascalPuff]

Re: binary casualty

A thought springs to my mind when thinking of binary things,and that is Ying and Yang,
positive and negative,without these two we could not have a universe.
________________________________________

Dear Michael:
As you may well know, the I Ching finds Yin & Yang in mutual complementarity. Two apparent diametrical opposites that are actually mutually supportive and absolutely symbiotic.

Regards

- RP

[RascalPuff]

Dear Michael:
I just looked it up in my book...

(**illustrated below in the logarithmic expression of 1,2,3,4, 5, 6,7, 8, 9 and 10, 90o segments - additional 'quantum leaps' , alternately parallel to and at right angles from the first four 90o quadrants of the 360o whole, and the extensional, alternating commencements at right angles and parallel to the 5th 90o segment. Alternative perspectives and definitions for dimensions <esp. 5 thru 8>, as well as the possibility of a heirarchy of 'quantum leaps' are directly implied here. <Any suggestions?> - KBR)

(2)

Successive points dividing a golden rectangle into squares lie on a logarithmic spiral (Wells 1986, p. 39; Livio 2002, p. 119).
*************
There is no precedent for this offered dimensional interpretation of 'quantum mechanical photon effect' - what this author calls 'the translatory - exponentially accelerated - moment'. There seem to be many other important questions and answers in view of these expressions. Truly Yours welcomes the casting of more light on this - especially geometric - 'translatory moment' described, illustrated subjection. This explication of the (logarithmic-geometric) cause of the 'quantum leap' (without the accompanying equations) is illustrated and described on page 463, in the 1979 published, 627 page (sold out) edition of Gravity Is The 4th Dimension (Extraterrestrial Physics 101, the contents of which continue as a work in progress).

Moreover, the 'quantum leap' is a sobriquet from the popular consideration that a given unit of microcosmic energy moves from one (Niels Bohr) 'orbit' (or, alternative 'shell' theorized station) to another, without ever occupying the space - interval - between the transposed orbit. There is no explanation for this perplexing enigma-apparent ('the quantum leap').

This record submits that the transposition of a given orbit, as it is perceived in 4 dimensions instead of three, offers the alternative interpretation of the so called 'leap', as occurring in a spiral shaped path - unanticipated; uncompensated-for, in the status quo 3-dimensional failures to comprehensively accomodate 'quantum leap', as comprehensively expressed in the above two illustrations of 4, 5 & 6 dimensionally equivalent geometric structures.
That is, the 4-dimensionally interpreted 'leap' is not per se, any kind of 3-D perceived vertical straight line ( ----> ) - up or down, to and from orbit A to orbit B, constituting the (short cut perceived) 'leap' (from one orbit or shell to another) - at all, but, rather, is a (lateral, long way around) coil shaped ( @ ) - *spiral-spin-up (360o) transiency (which may be alternately and approximately perceived within the structure of the 'YinYang' or 'Tao' symbol, from center to outside parameters) from a lower orbit to a higher one, and conversely (*spiral spin-down, this perspective also includes the ambivalent dynamics of 'chemical valence').
Yin Yang ('Tao')


The symbol of apparent opposites with its connotations of antipodal contention is actually an icon of mutually supportive , complementary reciprocity, since about the 3rd century BC; accompanied by a philosophy proffering that its complete gestalt is beyond human comprehension (which it may well be, for all of its elegant - prescient implying - simplicity.)

(Refer Fritjov Capra's TAO OF PHYSICS, which allows for *the illusion of apparent contradiction: actually mutually supportive; that being the central meaning of * 'Tao'. In this case, vis a vis, the 'inexplicable enigma' of quantum mechanics and its perceived 'contradiction' of continuous field theory.)

In the Bohr modeled atom of planet-like, nucleus-sun orbiting electrons, the orbits are not circular or elliptical, but rather - as with any other orbiting entity's 4-D path : spiral shaped.

The 4-D space-time continuum is presently said to be 'acknowledged' in academic and experimental physics; yet, the effects of that continuum, continue to go unrecognized, denied, discarded and unaccounted for. The round - O and elliptical - 0 - 3-D structure - wherever it orbitally occurs - is not anticipated or perceived as spiral shaped - @ , as it is in fact, in the prevailing, four dimensional setting.
There is no precedent for this offered (4-D spiral 'translatory moment') explanation, regarding the cited 'incomprehensibility' of Quantum Mechanical Dynamics; including a solution applicable to the 'quantum leap'.

Please let me know what you think of this.

Post Script
Incidentally, this is, for the second time (I will not pretend to be unconscious of it, as it were), my 36Oth entry, and, consequently, my third black star, for the second time...
(Quo vadis del aqui. We shall see...)

Best regards to you and yours,
- RP

[RascalPuff]

Imagine that if you were an astronaut and that you had landed on a planet say
in the solar system of Proximi Centuri our nearest star,outside of the sun,and that you needed some vital information,and that you needed it in order to return to the earth,well you would almost certainly be in for a long wait,because even at light speed,a two way conversation would take eight point four years,by that time you would no likely be dead.But if the communication was mind to mind,via telepathy,then communication would be instantanous,and be of much greater use,for mind to mind communication cancels out time and of course space,which is not that surprising,as they do not exist in the first place.compared to thought light would move at a snails pace,if at all?Time and space areall illusions,and soon this fact,and fact it most certainly is,will be universally accepted and then we will be that much closer to what Is.And move away from that which is not.

kind regards,michael.

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Dear Michael:
There's a lot more to this (consciousness being instantaneous) but for the moment this is what I could locate in google:


Scholarly articles for schools of fish moving maneuvering simultaneously


Flocks, herds and schools: A distributed behavioral model - Reynolds - Cited by 1389
Aerial Observation of Feeding Behavior in Four Baleen ... - Watkins - Cited by 8
Schooling dynamics of Norwegian spring spawning ... - Nottestad - Cited by 33
Craig Reynolds: Flocks, Herds, and Schools: A Distributed ...

Flocks and related synchronized group behaviors such as schools of fish or .... In real flight, turning and moving happen continuously and simultaneously. ...
www.cs.toronto.edu/~dt/siggraph97-course/cwr87/ - 65k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
Straight Dope Staff Report: How does a flock of birds wheel and ...

The highly coordinated movements of flocks of birds or schools of fish are among ... These "maneuver waves" could move in any direction through the flock, ...
www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mflockswoop.html - 12k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this


Check out the rest of these posts at your leisure. There's more information on it but for the time being this is all I could locate.

Thanks for the usual inspiration.

Regards, RP

[mkirkpatrick]

Re: binary casualty

A thought springs to my mind when thinking of binary things,and that is Ying and Yang,
positive and negative,without these two we could not have a universe.
________________________________________

Dear Michael:
As you may well know, the I Ching finds Yin & Yang in mutual complementarity. Two apparent diametrical opposites that are actually mutually supportive and absolutely symbiotic.

Regards

- RP

Am most grateful for your enthusiastic and thought provoking responses RP,Ying and Yang are the primal "parents" of all motion and spin,all spiral formations,universally,are
from these two,all that eminates from them,can be called,"children of the dual wave"?


regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

Dear Michael:
I just looked it up in my book...

(**illustrated below in the logarithmic expression of 1,2,3,4, 5, 6,7, 8, 9 and 10, 90o segments - additional 'quantum leaps' , alternately parallel to and at right angles from the first four 90o quadrants of the 360o whole, and the extensional, alternating commencements at right angles and parallel to the 5th 90o segment. Alternative perspectives and definitions for dimensions <esp. 5 thru 8>, as well as the possibility of a heirarchy of 'quantum leaps' are directly implied here. <Any suggestions?> - KBR)

(2)

Successive points dividing a golden rectangle into squares lie on a logarithmic spiral (Wells 1986, p. 39; Livio 2002, p. 119).
*************
There is no precedent for this offered dimensional interpretation of 'quantum mechanical photon effect' - what this author calls 'the translatory - exponentially accelerated - moment'. There seem to be many other important questions and answers in view of these expressions. Truly Yours welcomes the casting of more light on this - especially geometric - 'translatory moment' described, illustrated subjection. This explication of the (logarithmic-geometric) cause of the 'quantum leap' (without the accompanying equations) is illustrated and described on page 463, in the 1979 published, 627 page (sold out) edition of Gravity Is The 4th Dimension (Extraterrestrial Physics 101, the contents of which continue as a work in progress).

Moreover, the 'quantum leap' is a sobriquet from the popular consideration that a given unit of microcosmic energy moves from one (Niels Bohr) 'orbit' (or, alternative 'shell' theorized station) to another, without ever occupying the space - interval - between the transposed orbit. There is no explanation for this perplexing enigma-apparent ('the quantum leap').

This record submits that the transposition of a given orbit, as it is perceived in 4 dimensions instead of three, offers the alternative interpretation of the so called 'leap', as occurring in a spiral shaped path - unanticipated; uncompensated-for, in the status quo 3-dimensional failures to comprehensively accomodate 'quantum leap', as comprehensively expressed in the above two illustrations of 4, 5 & 6 dimensionally equivalent geometric structures.
That is, the 4-dimensionally interpreted 'leap' is not per se, any kind of 3-D perceived vertical straight line ( ----> ) - up or down, to and from orbit A to orbit B, constituting the (short cut perceived) 'leap' (from one orbit or shell to another) - at all, but, rather, is a (lateral, long way around) coil shaped ( @ ) - *spiral-spin-up (360o) transiency (which may be alternately and approximately perceived within the structure of the 'YinYang' or 'Tao' symbol, from center to outside parameters) from a lower orbit to a higher one, and conversely (*spiral spin-down, this perspective also includes the ambivalent dynamics of 'chemical valence').
Yin Yang ('Tao')


The symbol of apparent opposites with its connotations of antipodal contention is actually an icon of mutually supportive , complementary reciprocity, since about the 3rd century BC; accompanied by a philosophy proffering that its complete gestalt is beyond human comprehension (which it may well be, for all of its elegant - prescient implying - simplicity.)

(Refer Fritjov Capra's TAO OF PHYSICS, which allows for *the illusion of apparent contradiction: actually mutually supportive; that being the central meaning of * 'Tao'. In this case, vis a vis, the 'inexplicable enigma' of quantum mechanics and its perceived 'contradiction' of continuous field theory.)

In the Bohr modeled atom of planet-like, nucleus-sun orbiting electrons, the orbits are not circular or elliptical, but rather - as with any other orbiting entity's 4-D path : spiral shaped.

The 4-D space-time continuum is presently said to be 'acknowledged' in academic and experimental physics; yet, the effects of that continuum, continue to go unrecognized, denied, discarded and unaccounted for. The round - O and elliptical - 0 - 3-D structure - wherever it orbitally occurs - is not anticipated or perceived as spiral shaped - @ , as it is in fact, in the prevailing, four dimensional setting.
There is no precedent for this offered (4-D spiral 'translatory moment') explanation, regarding the cited 'incomprehensibility' of Quantum Mechanical Dynamics; including a solution applicable to the 'quantum leap'.

Please let me know what you think of this.

Post Script
Incidentally, this is, for the second time (I will not pretend to be unconscious of it, as it were), my 36Oth entry, and, consequently, my third black star, for the second time...
(Quo vadis del aqui. We shall see...)

Best regards to you and yours,
- RP

RP,thanks once again,you have been busy,my take on this is simple,the spiral is the
"signature" of Absolute consciousness,expressed within the "informed" idea"? Of
matter and energy.All universal expressions of life are spiral by "nature" we are no exception,as I mentioned earlier in a previous post,from tiny shells,to galaxies,all conform
to the spiral-ratio.Which is really the double-helix of Ying and Yang?

regards michael

[RascalPuff]

Where ever the focus and the will are,the arising "sent" idea will be instantaneous,time,
and space,will be cancelled,as though they never even existed? Distance becomes irrelevent in the world of transcendent thought and consciousness.



regards michael.

Dear Michael:

I just recalled something I learned quite a while back, in entymology (study of insects), a hive of bees is considered a single organism, each individual bee of which is a cell in that organism. I don't know if this same interpretation has been applied to schools of fish, pods of whales, herds of animals or flocks of birds, but it seems to me that the bees and the birds (etceteras) are telling us something - some potential - about ourselves, if we would but only listen (tune in our consciousness)...
The bees are insects, the fish are reptiles, the herds and pods are mammals... Yet, under certain circumstances they behave as a singular cell, and, they transcend the speed of light in so doing (their simultaenous maneuvers). Are we not at the portals of true 'instanaeity' here? Does this not gainsay any and all who deny it. The birds and herds prove that water medium is not a required conducting medium...

Please tell me what you think of this.

As usual
- RP

[mkirkpatrick]

Dear Michael:

I just recalled something I learned quite a while back, in entymology (study of insects), a hive of bees is considered a single organism, each individual bee of which is a cell in that organism. I don't know if this same interpretation has been applied to schools of fish, pods of whales, herds of animals or flocks of birds, but it seems to me that the bees and the birds (etceteras) are telling us something - some potential - about ourselves, if we would but only listen (tune in our consciousness)...
The bees are insects, the fish are reptiles, the herds and pods are mammals... Yet, under certain circumstances they behave as a singular cell, and, they transcend the speed of light in so doing (their simultaenous maneuvers). Are we not at the portals of true 'instanaeity' here? Does this not gainsay any and all who deny it. The birds and herds prove that water medium is not a required conducting medium...

Please tell me what you think of this.

As usual
- RP

I think you have highlighted a natural behaviour,that we have "tuned ourselves out of"!
We have "lost" the "instataeity" and the spontanaeity,that our "lesser brethern" have and
naturally respond to.

There is a way "back" for us,although it will require much personal effort,and a "forgetting" of certain "ego-centric ideas"?

Thank you muchly for your interest,it is indeed refreshing and faith restoring!

regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

An idea arises within an infinite and eternal ocean of consciousness,if willed focus is added
to this equation,then then delivery is without delay-instant,regardless of distance,for these are illusions,best we remember this.





regards michael

[G_burnett]

I would have to ponder that the illusion is that we are going ahead in evolute when in fact we are doing just the opposite and returning from whence we came ... as light is slowed profound indeed must be the thought as it will be faster. ..occasionaly.

Kind regards g

[mkirkpatrick]

Consciousness is ominipresent in this universe,it is a "field" which entirely fills all infinity and is the same thing as the aether which was popular years ago.when two minds are linked together there is instananous communication,there cannot be a lapse in time,for time like space are both illusions,the only reality we have in this universe is living consciousness which also just happens to be energy as well and every other thing you can think of-its that as well.

regards michael.