[mkirkpatrick]

What is the connection say of a rotating black hole,an African dung beetle,and a bikini clad female on a beach in the south of France?Well the only real connection is consciousness,we are all connected by mindful energy.There seems at times confusion about all the apparent diversity of life and Things.
But back of all these things,there is only one thing,conscoiusness manifesting
as many apparent different things.All "things" are interconnected and linked together by intention and focuss of will,either,realised.or not.The universe is thought manifested into form,solid thought so to speak?There is nowhere absolutely Nowhere,where thought is not present,to think otherwise would really be absurd.We hear a lot about vacuums,empty space,great Voids of nothingness.well there are in truth no spaces,no great big empty voids,for the universe is absolutely full to the brim,so to speak,of thought,either in a liquid like state such as the film,membrane,the aether,or in solid formlike stars and things.
As I believe I said before you could not find enough space anywhere to squeeze a banknote in between,but maybe just a Thought?Space is an entity and its name is Mind.

kind regards michael.

[Graybeard]

There is nowhere absolutely Nowhere,where thought is not present,

Are our thoughts our own ??

If a CD or memory stick could be loaded with a single human beings entire memory ... and then uploaded into another human being ... would that person feel that he/she had lived the life on the memory stick ... ?

Would they feel grief for 'their' dead relations ??
Would they remember with happiness, all the good times?

Would they pick up their new job as tho they had been doing it for a lifetime ??

Would their education be equal to that on the memory stick?

I don't know ... but if we are simply an arrangement of biological matter then it would seem that this could happen

Mind Games in Space

[Guille]

Michael,

Mind energy is just physical energy. i.e.: they are just the "ability to"¡ which itself is Energy.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Guille Michael, Mind energy is just physical energy. i.e.: they are just the "ability to"¡ which itself is Energy.

Mind,energy,are indivisible from each other,and it originates from the NON-physical,
it is certainly present within the physical universe,that what weare aware of is just its
outer appearance,as it presents here,but remember there is an inner aspect to this,and
that exsists in a non-physical state.

regards michael.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Mind,energy,are indivisible from each other,and it originates from the NON-physical, it is certainly present within the physical universe,that what weare aware of is just its outer appearance,as it presents here,but remember there is an inner aspect to this,and that exsists in a non-physical state. regards michael.

It's hard to determine that. I think the solution for the TOE (apart from the unification of abstract philosophy and basic physics, as I wrote in another post) is in finding the true meaning of Mind and Time and the relationship between these two. They are the two concepts that have fascinated thinkers of all types the most. The mind si the opposite of physical bodies, but to what extend? There is a fundamental difference between minds and physical bodies: the minds can't interact whiles the bodies can. Minds can't share experiences, thoughts, feelings, etz, between them. They can do it through the physical world (painting, music, writing...) but not directly, not mantaining the objects of the minds in their mindfull-only existence.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Guille It's hard to determine that. I think the solution for the TOE (apart from the unification of abstract philosophy and basic physics, as I wrote in another post) is in finding the true meaning of Mind and Time and the relationship between these two. They are the two concepts that have fascinated thinkers of all types the most. The mind si the opposite of physical bodies, but to what extend? There is a fundamental difference between minds and physical bodies: the minds can't interact whiles the bodies can. Minds can't share experiences, thoughts, feelings, etz, between them. They can do it through the physical world (painting, music, writing...) but not directly, not mantaining the objects of the minds in their mindfull-only existence.

A consideration for you here is that there is mind,singular,it is not plural as in minds!
Think about it,if we all had a personal mind,like say a bubble around us,what would
provide a connecting link between each mind?


regards michael.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick A consideration for you here is that there is mind,singular,it is not plural as in minds! Think about it,if we all had a personal mind,like say a bubble around us,what would provide a connecting link between each mind? regards michael.

Yes, but is there anyway you can prove it, or at least experience it? If that was true, then we wouldn't need of toequest to discuss, we would need this thread to express our ideas to others, we could do it directly as we are parts of the supposed total mind. But we are posting here, and I have to listen to Bethoven's 9th symphony in order to understand the grandeous joy of feeling complete that Bethoven felt and had to express through music.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Guille Yes, but is there anyway you can prove it, or at least experience it? If that was true, then we wouldn't need of toequest to discuss, we would need this thread to express our ideas to others, we could do it directly as we are parts of the supposed total mind. But we are posting here, and I have to listen to Bethoven's 9th symphony in order to understand the grandeous joy of feeling complete that Bethoven felt and had to express through music.

Yes that is true,but most of us are existing on an outer illusary level,where seperation and
exclusiveness reign supreme,on the deeper inner level,you are right we would not need
this forum,but weare not all at that level are we?


regards michael.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Yes that is true,but most of us are existing on an outer illusary level,where seperation and exclusiveness reign supreme,on the deeper inner level,you are right we would not need this forum,but weare not all at that level are we? regards michael.

Who is at that level? Has anyone ever in history connected with another person through mind interaction? If so, how was it, who was it, is it a historical fact? If not, then you can't say that you have a theory about all minds being united in one. If there is no phenomenal direction to a theory, it is not a theory of reality for it is not possible. In another post you told me 'what is thinkable, is possible' but it's wrong. Possible is what can be, given what has been. And a total mind of unity is not possible for there is no phenomenal direction to it which makes it possible. If there is any phenomena, anything that happens which makes it a possibility, has a direction to it, at least as one of the possible explanations, then you would have a theory of reality. But it will still not be a practical theory of reality, for to become such thing all the other possibilities would have to be disproved.

[baudrunner]

Kirk, you're right. The one mind to which you refer is the Universal consciousness. We all share in it, in spite of our individualities.

Whenever I attempt to justify the existence of anything I always look for a polarization of the principles that allow it to exist. Consciousness is far reaching and Universally pervasive. In the case of the mind, its polar complement is represented by the individual's sub-conscious suppression of the stored memories of thought developments and experiences so as to preserve the security of our unique identities and in order to recognize ourselves as unique entities.

Remember that fellow, the physicist Bucksbaum from Michigan University who proved that an electron can store an infinite amount of information? Well, of course it must be able to, because our visual system processes information modulated on all the particles in the medium with our brains. I believe that there must at some point be some kind of transmitter/receptor link communicating via the consciousness web from the central processing units of our brains with the stored information in our memory cells, even if only at the molecular level. There must be a practical purpose to that horseshoe shaped antenna-like assemblage of neurons cradling the nodes of the midbrain. Storage of information in our brains means that this information can be potentially extracted externally by another's brain, because atoms, molecules, and cells are constantly communicating through the medium of this three-dimensional reality. There is no slipping a card between anything at all, as I see it. But we need to retain our unique identities, and this occurs at the spiritual level, because the information can persist for ever, even after we shed the finite and corporeal. So as a result our memories are kept to ourselves as best as can be done unless we permit their release after interpretation, by writing or speaking.

We may all each very well have our very own encryption protocal for the storage of our memories, and this only because of the myriad possibilities that existed once our cells began dividing.

One thing is for certain, we could not exist outside some relative framework of time.