[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by zeroca Hello everybody! Why is this thread so interesting? I think mainly because of nothing. That’s my favorite theme, but I think, everybody is fed up with my explanations about nothing, so I will try to offer them otherwise – in form of recollection. In May, 1987 when a heavy snowfall came down in Svaneti (part of Georgia – Southern slope of Caucasus), the blanket of snow was over 5.5 meter’s height at some places. Avalanches caused heavy disasters. Svaneti Shkhara (5201m) I wandered if there was any mechanism for restoring the balance (As I considered falling of such huge amount of snow a disbalance). After consideration nothingness as a conception appeared anew in my mind: As we mentioned, it’s useless to look for the “place” where nothing exists, to build a laboratory to detect it, or to argue with others about it. My approach was very simple: I didn’t care greatly about the origin of the universe, i.e. was it actually created from nothingness, was it created after Big Bang, or does it exist permanently in 3-D space within time, but. . . If this universe really was born from nothing, then every creature in this universe and the universe itself must contain the code of it even presently and there must be a system or mechanism based on it… To say briefly such system really exists. It had been used by ancestors of mankind for harmonization of the universe. Lao Tse, Buddha, Sufis, and lot of other persons knew about it. No need to recite all persons. I restored the system, called it “Active zero”, then set it up and made an experiment. Then practiced it for 10 years (1987-1997) mainly privately, for political purposes; against national disasters, even in the period when the former USSR made nuclear tests in the Middle Asia (I practiced it mainly for restoration of destructive results of the explode). I’ll repeat about the essence of “Active zero” in another post, if somebody is interested in it. So about nothingness again: 1. Everything exists as 3d body-time within 3d space-time and is changing. 2. Nothingness “exists” outside of 3d space-time, i.e. transcendentally (beyond the bounds of 3d space-time) without changing. Which from two above is more stable, permanent “existence”? Maybe somebody wants to check its ability and power? Regards, zeroca.

Merab my friend I am most keenly interested in your active zero thoughts,can you share them withus on another post,or privately via pm if you prefer.
itend to agree with the idea you present here.

kind regards michael.

[surreality]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick the whole question of No-thing is that it cannot and has never been any part of reality,

That's a very presumptuous. Wouldn't knowing that nothing has never been any part of reality only possible if one knows exactly what every part of reality is? Also, it shows a very Western-centric worldview; Nothing and Nothingness are integral aspects of many Buddhist philosophies. Take a look at the works of Keiji Nishitani or Nishida Kitaro.

[N0B0DY]

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/kyoto-school/

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/nothingness/

[Profpat]

Thanks for the links Nobody, they should be of interest to everybody.

Best,

Pat