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    Re: we are all kings of our own castles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Consciousness View Post
    Fission = is the separation of ions (i.e. Light & Sound condensed) to particles and waves)through thinking - Fusion = is the fusing of ions by stopping thought.
    Fission & fusion: http://reactor.engr.wisc.edu/fission.htm

    I am not quite sure how you are defining "thought" here, but if you are defining it as "any event in the Totality" then I guess it could fit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Consciousness
    Fission = Relativity - Fusion = Reality or the Tao
    Although the concept of Fission = Relativity - Fusion is humorous in that it could sort-of work, either fission or relativity - fusion is not the Tao, and although it is a part of reality, it is not the whole of reality.

    Nothing is the Tao, despite that everything is the Tao.


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    Re: we are all kings of our own castles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth View Post
    Fission & fusion: http://reactor.engr.wisc.edu/fission.htm

    I am not quite sure how you are defining "thought" here, but if you are defining it as "any event in the Totality" then I guess it could fit.

    Although the concept of Fission = Relativity - Fusion is humorous in that it could sort-of work, either fission or relativity - fusion is not the Tao, and although it is a part of reality, it is not the whole of reality.

    Nothing is the Tao, despite that everything is the Tao.

    Hello Elizabeth, Fusion in respect of thought is explained in my other posts just click on the name Infinite Consciousness and that will take you to all my other posts you will find everything that you are looking for there.

    Fusion = Tao is fusion in that it is the reconnection - of our awareness i.e. our attention as the outer expression of our soul or consciousness - back to our soul withis us - and this fusion or reconnection empowers our soul to take back its natural control over the mind and senses and the Infinite Consciousness that results from this fusion is the Tao.

    The reality or Tao is what we lose awareness of because of identifying our awarenes with the matter of the body and the matter of the world both of which are vibrating at the same frequency which creates the profound illusion or 3d hologram that we are imprisoned in.

    When we rise above body consciousness we are experiencing the Tao or Infinite Consciousness at is lowest level of spiritual awareness and as we go higher we rise into Cosmic and then into Supra-Cosmic Consciousness i.e. the Tao.

    The Tao is Infinite Consciousness or the "Word of God" in its unmanifested state. Our "awareness" as the focus of our attention is the "content" of our consciousness lost in outer expression it is per se the Tao that is the everything but we have lost all awareness of "IT" because we have identified our 8% human level of consciousness with matter.

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    Re: we are all kings of our own castles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth View Post
    Nothing is the Tao, despite that everything is the Tao.
    Very good point Elizabeth... I enjoy Laotzsu's logic...

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    Re: Maslow's hierarchy of psychosocial needs

    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick View Post
    You are so right Antonio,I work
    with many who are mentally ill and all alone,some have been deserted by their
    families,others have none,It is like an icy isolation that must be a nightmare
    to live in day after day.

    kind regards michael.
    Right you are! I work in a prison with 2,000 beds as the Director of Mental Health. I witness every day this "...icy isolation..." every day. I discuss the Maslow view of heirarchical growth often to the many inmates who are confused about their own reasons for doing what they did to get into prison and we discuss frequently the concept of "meaning" of living.

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    Re: Maslow's hierarchy of psychosocial needs

    Hi Mrasr....first of all welcome to the TOE. Secondly may I say that it always touches my heart when I hear someone not hardened by their work role and still retaining the ability to empathically see these prisoners still as "people."
    I belong to a group who go into the prison to play baseball with these fellows. I am mainly a spectator which has allowed me to sit and converse with these guys about life and all it implies in their present situation. I have often noted as they talk of their lives, it is very difficult for some to them to make eye contact...if you do happen to catch their eye, its the experience of recognizing deep pain and confusion about their life, their deeds and long stretches of time behind bars....
    Our conversations are growing moments for me and many of them have told me they are growing moments for them....


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    Re: Maslow's hierarchy of psychosocial needs

    Thank you for the reply Mikal. It has always been difficult for me to convince the prison staff to let go of their prejudices and preconceptions of the "convict". I have used the Maslow's Hierarchy of needs as a guide when I speak to the staff as well as to the inmates when I am trying to explain the importance of recognizing who a person is at any given moment...in the here and now, so to speak. I teach a mental health program called "Cognitive Concepts Better Living Program" inside the prison. This program contains classes such as "Violence Reduction and Anger Management", "Effective Communication", "Parenting Skills and the Family" and the main course of "Cognitive Concepts" (with information about THINKING ABOUT THINKING AND DECISION LMAKING.)

    My teachings in the program and my experiences dealing with prison staff (as well as the general community folks), have enabled me to grasp several concepts about human behavior and the way we seem to allow preconceived notions to effect the way we think about our society's prisoners. The prison where I work is a "Medium" secure prison and I deal with many troubled men who made relatively minor mistakes in their lives. Most (not by any means all) understand the problems they caused with their victim(s) and many of these inmates are attempting to deal with guilt and abandonment (lonliness and isolation). When I explain to them the intricacies of the Maslow model as applied to human needs, there is an increase of understanding on their part concerning their own purposes in life....despite their troubled past.

    I look forward to more information from others concerning the use of psychological concepts, such as the Maslow model, to help me be a more creative caregiver to male prisoners who, as they mature, seek ways to redifine their purpose for living.

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    Re: Maslow's hierarchy of psychosocial needs

    Hi Mrasr....well kudos to you! I respect people who can stay the person they are in the role they play.
    I can only tell you that there should be more like you who are really interested in true rehabilitation. Mistakes can be costly in life but I have met too many tossed in prison to do hard time for very small offenses. I think prison life must be incredibly hard to tolerate and actually very scary for some people who just make mistakes.
    I have had many guys confess to me that what they really need is someone to talk with them about life....that made an impression upon me for I do know they are lost in their lives.....

    Good luck in your attempts to help them...thats admirable!!


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    Re: Maslow's hierarchy of psychosocial needs

    Was reading this thread yesterday, Antonio, and found this information most informative. Thought I would open the link and repost it to see if there are any who would care to pursue a discussion.

    From a link originally posted by AntonioLeo

    Maslow on Self-Actualizing Persons


    Maslow, on the basis of a study of persons (living and dead) selected as being self-actualizing persons on the basis of a general definition, described the self-actualizing person as follows, as compared to ordinary or average people (Maslow, 1956):

    1. More efficient perception of reality and more comfortable relations with it. This characteristic includes the detection of the phoney and dishonest person and the accurate perception of what exists rather than a distortion of perception by one's needs. Self-actualizing people are more aware of their environment, both human and nonhuman. They are not afraid of the unknown and can tolerate the doubt, uncertainty, and tentativeness accompanying the perception of the new and unfamiliar. This is clearly the characteristic described by Combs and Snygg and Rogers as awareness of perceptions or openness to experience.

    2. Acceptance of self, others, and nature. Self-actualizing persons are not ashamed or guilty about their human nature, with its shortcoming, imperfections, frailties, and weaknesses. Nor are they critical of these aspects of other people. They respect and esteem themselves and others. Moreover, they are honest, open, genuine, without pose or facade. They are not, however, self-satisfied but are concerned about discrepancies between what is and what might be or should be in themselves, others, and society. Again, these characteristics are those which Kelly, Rogers, and Combs and Snygg include in their descriptions.

    3. Spontaneity. Self-actualizing persons are not hampered by convention, but they do not flout it. They are not conformists, but neither are they anti-conformist for the sake of being so. They are not externally motivated or even goal-directed- rather their motivation is the internal one of growth and development, the actualization of themselves and their potentialities. Rogers and Kelly both speak of growth, development and maturation, change and fluidity.


    4. Problem-centering. Self-actualizing persons are not ego-centered but focus on problems outside themselves. They are mission-oriented, often on the basis of a sense of responsibility, duty, or obligation rather than personal choice. This characteristic would appear to be related to the security and lack of defensiveness leading to compassionateness emphasized by Combs and Snygg.

    5. The quality of detachment; the need for privacy. The self-actualizing person enjoys solitude and privacy. It is possible for him to remain unruffled and undisturbed by what upsets others. He may even appear to be asocial. This is a characteristic that does not appear in other descriptions. It is perhaps related to a sense of security and self-sufficiency.

    6. Autonomy, independence of culture and environment. Self-actualizing persons, though dependent on others for the satisfaction of the basic needs of love, safety, respect and belongingness, "are not dependent for their main satisfactions on the real world, or other people or culture or means-to-ends, or in general, on extrinsic satisfactions. Rather they are dependent for their own development and continued growth upon their own potentialities and latent resources." Combs and Snygg and Rogers include independence in their descriptions, and Rogers also speaks of an internal locus of control.

    7. Continued freshness of appreciation. Self-actualizing persons repeatedly, though not continuously, experience awe, pleasure, and wonder in their everyday world.

    8. The mystic experience, the oceanic feeling. In varying degrees and with varying frequencies, self-actualizing persons have experiences of ecstasy, awe, and wonder with feelings of limitless horizons opening up, followed by the conviction that the experience was important and had a carry-over into everyday life. This and the preceding characteristic appear to be related and to add something not in other descriptions, except perhaps as it may be included in the existential living of Rogers.

    9. Gemeinschaftsgefuhl. Self-actualizing persons have a deep feeling of empathy, sympathy, or compassion for human beings in general. This feeling is, in a sense, unconditional in that it exists along with the recognition of the existence in others of negative qualities that provoke occasional anger, impatience, and disgust. Although empathy is not specifically listed by others (Combs and Snygg include compassion), it would seem to be implicit in other descriptions including acceptance and respect.

    10. Interpersonal relations. Self-actualizing people deep interpersonal relations with others. They are selective, however, and their circle of friends may be small, usually consisting of other self-actualizing persons, but the capacity is there. They attract others to them as admirers or disciples. This characteristic, again, is at least implicit in the formulations of others.

    11. The democratic character structure. The self-actualizing person does not discriminate on the basis of class, education, race, or color. He is humble in his recognition of what he knows in comparison with what could be known, and he is ready and willing to learn from anyone. He respects everyone as potential contributors to his knowledge, merely because they are human beings.

    12. Means and ends. Self-actualizing persons are highly ethical. They clearly distinguish between means and ends and subordinate means to ends.

    13. Philosophical, unhostile sense of humor. Although the self-actualizing persons studied by Maslow had a sense of humor, it was not of the ordinary type. Their sense of humor was the spontaneous, thoughtful type, intrinsic to the situation. Their humor did not involve hostility, superiority, or sarcasm. Many have noted that a sense of humor characterizes people who could be described as self-actualizing persons, though it is not mentioned by those cited here.

    14. Creativeness. All of Maslow's subjects were judged to be creative, each in his own way. The creativity involved here is not special-talent creativeness. It is a creativeness potentially inherent in everyone but usually suffocated by acculturation. It is a fresh, naive, direct way of looking at things. Creativeness is a characteristic most would agree to as characterizing self-actualizing persons.

    (From Patterson, C. H. The Therapeutic Relationship. Monterey, CA. 1985
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    Re: Maslow's hierarchy of psychosocial needs

    I think I just self-actualised !! Now how do I stop my clothes from burning. Please reply ASAP ....... lolol

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    Re: Maslow's hierarchy of psychosocial needs

    14. Creativeness. All of Maslow's subjects were judged to be creative, each in his own way. The creativity involved here is not special-talent creativeness. It is a creativeness potentially inherent in everyone but usually suffocated by acculturation. It is a fresh, naive, direct way of looking at things. Creativeness is a characteristic most would agree to as characterizing self-actualizing persons.

    My two cents worth; And herein lies the problem__Men/women are inherently good, until they act...rrr
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