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    'A 1st Law of Psychiatry'?

    If 'the 1st Law of Psychiatry' really is 'Never encourage unusual behavior', doesn't that exclude the accomplishments and contributions of a lot of unusually behaving people?

    It can and sometimes is said that humankind would be better off without any kind of technological development and that may be true, but we're where we are, under the impingent circumstances, for better and/or worse, and if the 1st Law of Psychiatry is 'Never encourage unusual behavior', doesn't that fairly begin with failure to control fire and the invention of the wheel, for example?

    (These points are so elementary that even a Geico advertising executive can understand them?)

    If the 1st Law of Psychiatry is circumspected, is it not true that neither psychology nor psychiatry are sciences and for this reason have no authority to be conjuring - let alone functionally applying - any 'laws'?

    If the First Law of Psychiatry really is trying to pass itself off as a scientific law, is that not unusual behavior and the pinnacle of duplicty? Is that not insanity, squared?

    Post Script: 50% of the admitted patient hospital beds in the United States are psychiatric. Refer: insanity factory. Starting with the people in charge?

    Any further commentary, criticisms, contributions are invited (as long as none of it constitutes or endorses unusual behavior?)

    Interrogative: How much trouble are we in?
    Declarative: How much trouble we are in.
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    Thanks RP,the first law in psychiatry is;;firstly find the brain,then try to engage it! I have
    been involved within the world of psychiatry for over 30years,and equally been involved
    with those who are acutely mentally ill.

    Some of the psychiatrists treating these patients,were as ill themselves,and I have personally seen many a shrink,being detained as a patient,(sometimes even within the
    hospital they were working in)That is rare though,as they are moved to another area.



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    Re: 'A 1st Law of Psychiatry'?

    Quote Originally Posted by RascalPuff View Post
    If 'the 1st Law of Psychiatry' really is 'Never encourage unusual behavior', doesn't that exclude the accomplishments and contributions of a lot of unusually behaving people?

    It can and sometimes is said that humankind would be better off without any kind of technological development and that may be true, but we're where we are, under the impingent circumstances, for better and/or worse, and if the 1st Law of Psychiatry is 'Never encourage unusual behavior', doesn't that fairly begin with failure to control fire and the invention of the wheel, for example?

    (These points are so elementary that even a Geico advertising executive can understand them?)

    If the 1st Law of Psychiatry is circumspected, is it not true that neither psychology nor psychiatry are sciences and for this reason have no authority to be conjuring - let alone functionally applying - any 'laws'?

    If the First Law of Psychiatry really is trying to pass itself off as a scientific law, is that not unusual behavior and the pinnacle of duplicty? Is that not insanity, squared?

    Post Script: 50% of the admitted patient hospital beds in the United States are psychiatric. Refer: insanity factory. Starting with the people in charge?

    Any further commentary, criticisms, contributions are invited (as long as none of it constitutes or endorses unusual behavior?)

    Interrogative: How much trouble are we in?
    Declarative: How much trouble we are in.

    Hey Rascal....this is a great thread to discuss just how much trouble our world is really in. I knew from my own life experience that I had to stay clear of this pseudoscientific realm of psychiatry. Once I learnt to live with the impossible experiences which became possible for me I knew that I had to understand the underlying basis of psychiatry as it had fast become our societal base.
    I studied Thomas Szasz and his account of the Insanity Myth. I had to give the guy credit for standing outside the fringes of his own field in the 1960s and informing us that the overall plan was to neurolize all human problems, label them into disorders and lots of defining psychobabble of the expert nature...he said what gets neurolized is then easily drugged for control purposes...if were all broke...we all got to be fixed.
    This kind of fits in with Jung and Freuds little squabble and breakup in 1921 when Jung told Freud in a letter that we were the generation who were going to relive the ancient mystery of sophia. Gee you might as well say they saw it coming and for a world with our ancient self-knowledge lost would we think we were going crazy. Its the kind of underlying thought which has led us to where we are now which is massive pharmacuetical drug addiction, the behavioral sciences taking over the educational system from the lowest to the highest and of course other numerous problems we are now slowly realizing....just some thoughts here rascal...


    peace Mikal

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    Re: 'A 1st Law of Psychiatry'?

    Quote Originally Posted by RascalPuff View Post
    If 'the 1st Law of Psychiatry' really is 'Never encourage unusual behavior', doesn't that exclude the accomplishments and contributions of a lot of unusually behaving people?

    Any further commentary, criticisms, contributions are invited (as long as none of it constitutes or endorses unusual behavior?)

    Thomas Edison, according to the 1st Law of Psychiatry, would have to be diagnosed as an Obsessive Compulsive and deluded beyond imagination

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    Re: 'A 1st Law of Psychiatry'?

    A fascinating concept like this laying dormant at the T.O.E., or perchance it is just "Resting Lightly"?

    Whether a First Law or Rule can be applied to something as nebulous as Psychiatry, I am not qualified to judge.

    How is one to ascertain the usual from the unusual when most biological entitities have a variety of coping mechanisms and strategies that they employ to maintain survivability and security in an everychanging environment?

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    Re: 'A 1st Law of Psychiatry'?

    Quote Originally Posted by RascalPuff View Post
    If 'the 1st Law of Psychiatry' really is 'Never encourage unusual behavior'...
    Obviously it cannot 'stand' in light of critical examination. It is no 'law' (considering the evidence in contradiction).
    Perhaps it was a 'bumpersticker'?

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    Re: 'A 1st Law of Psychiatry'?

    Deliberate oxymorons
    Often a writer will use an oxymoron in order to deliberately call attention to a contradiction. Richard Feynman, for example, in his lectures on physics, spends a chapter discussing "dry water" [2]. Clearly, he could have used a different phrase, such as perhaps "hydrodynamics of fluids in the limiting case of viscosity approaching zero," but the deliberate contradiction of the phrase "dry water" both adds humor to his otherwise-dry analysis, and also emphasizes the fact that the substance he is discussing is theoretical and not real.

    Some examples of deliberate oxymorons include:

    Deafening silence
    Sweet sorrow
    Forward retreat
    Accidentally on Purpose[3]
    Oxymorons are most tellingly employed in injecting a sense of ironic, ostensibly unintended, humor. The effect is to confront the reader or the listener with a sense of ludicrousness so as to render the whole sentence and the idea absurd and funny. It should be remembered that this is a purely subjective line of thinking and presupposes that the reader or listener is already familiar with the intended humor. Examples of such thought-provoking oxymorons include:

    Orphans of the Living - children in the foster-parent system.
    "Poet in residence in absentia" - a title granted to a poet, at his own request, by a university.
    Some matters benefit from a head on approach, others will yield more information when approached obliquely. LW

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    Re: 'A 1st Law of Psychiatry'?

    "1st Law of psychiatry (alleged)":
    'Never encourage unusual behavior'.
    ---------------------------------------------

    Webster's Dictionary and Thesaurus connects oxymoron with the word 'non-sequitur':
    "An inference that does not follow from the premesis".
    [Etymology: Latin, it does not follow.]

    ("I don't drink, smoke or curse - dammit, I left my pipe at the beer joint.")
    ---------------------------------------------
    The issued proclamation (alleged '1st law') was projected on Truly Yours in 1987, by the Chief Psychiatrist of the Santa Cruz, CA. Mental Health Clinic - one Dr. John Gillette; who also glibly denied that Freud, Adler and Jung are the founders of Modern Psychology.
    ----------------------------------------------

    The above series of astute responses, from Mikal, Tina, nameless and labelwench, accordingly highlight mckirkpatrick's opening response to this thead; making it (the reflected abuse of authority and power) worth repeating...


    "Thanks RP,the first law in psychiatry is; firstly find the brain,then try to engage it!
    I have been involved within the world of psychiatry for over 30years,and equally been involved
    with those who are acutely mentally ill.

    "Some of the psychiatrists treating these patients,were as ill themselves,and I have personally seen many a shrink,being detained as a patient,(sometimes even within the hospital they were working in).That is rare though,as they are moved to another area."

    regards michael.

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    Re: 'A 1st Law of Psychiatry'?

    Be careful when visiting mental wards not to go on and on about the TOE or they may not let you out.

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    Re: 'A 1st Law of Psychiatry'?

    As usual, Austin, you're on to something; to share with fellow navigators...

    In the book 'How Real Is Real?', author, Paul Wazlatsky, describes a documented event that occurred fairly recently in the Psychiatric Department at Menlo Park, California.

    Two psychiatrists are individually told that they are about to interview a man who falsely but obsessionally believes himself to be a psychiatrist...

    The two psychiatrists are brought together for a counsel, under these qualified circumstances.

    Each psychiatrist eventually diagnoses the other as being 'paranoid schizophrenic'.

    --------------------------------------------
    "Dave's not here." / "This is Dave."
    Continued...

    Incidentally, and, moving right along, in the course of my counseling with Dr. John Gillette (Chief Psychiatrist of the Santa Cruz, CA. Mental Health Clinic - I am diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder), he asked me what I did with my time. I replied that I research for and write books. He asked me to name some titles of my works. I responded firstly that I had authored a book about Einstein's work (w'out mathematics) entitled:
    'Gravity is the 4th Dimension'...

    At that time, the long since sold out book, was a best seller in 41 bookstores all over the state of California. As well as being sold out internationally, via The Whole Earth Catalogue's 1970 edition.

    Upon hearing my response to his question of what I authored, Dr. Gillette replied:
    'No. You didn't."

    I responded, 'No, I didn't what?'
    He resolved assertively,
    "You did not author that book."

    In this era, the book was selling out in over a dozen bookstores in Berkeley, and Santa Cruz County, alone.

    Apparently the Dr. was somehow familiar with the - at that time controversial - book, while adamently refusing to acknowledge my authorship of it. There was after all, only one person in the world who could rightfully claim what I was claiming, and although my photograph is in the (sold out) 5th edition, the Dr. refused to recognize or acknowledge Truly Yours as the author. (He was apparently 'playing the odds', while simultaneously underestimating me).

    The following week I brought a copy to him, whereupon he then conceded his (noteworthy) entrenched mistake.

    Neither was this the only time such equivocation has been projected on the author of Gravity is the 4th Dimension, aka Total Field Theory. Much more recently I have been rashly and independently 'informed' by two different people that I 'plagiarized' Mark McCutcheon's 'The Final Theory' - which is a particularly stellar allegation, since my work (describing a physically expanding universe) was published in three languages (out of Naples, Italy) in 1959, and has since been sold out internationally in four other editions; especially in Berkeley, San Francisco and Marin County.

    Whereas, McCutcheon's 'Final Theory' was first published in 2002 and revised in 2004.

    Eliciting the question of just who is plagiarizing who, regarding this fifty year old case...

    Likewise, I am recently being told of and observing portions of work that closely 'resembles' mine. 'Moving Dimensions', for example, and 'Dynamic Matter', to name a few late emergences.

    Conclusion: As predicted in Aldous Huxley's Brave New World, individuals and groups are being programmed - socially and pharmaceutically - not to hear, see, know and understand, what they understand, know, see and hear.
    http://www.toequest.com/forum/toe-theory-articles/2516-total-field-theory-reinstatement-cosmological-constant-steady-state-theories.html?ltr=T
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    "All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus
    "Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein
    "Particles give me a headache." - Ibid


 

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