[Hoda]

Jean Paul Sartre said :

I am responsible for everything . . . except for my very responsibility, for I am not the foundation of my being. Therefore everything takes place as if I were compelled to be responsible. I am abandoned in the world . . . in the sense that I find myself suddenly alone and without help, engaged in a world for which I bear the whole responsibility without being able, whatever I do, to tear myself away from this responsibility for an instant.

are we eventually dealing with concepts and cognitive abilities that we did not create at the first place? - i guess yea, we are - and also, it is our genes and environment that are pushing us towards living this life, which minimizes our freedom, no? how dos that affect our psychological health/development?

[RascalPuff]

Originally Posted by Hoda Jean Paul Sartre said : I am responsible for everything . . . except for my very responsibility, for I am not the foundation of my being. Therefore everything takes place as if I were compelled to be responsible. I am abandoned in the world . . . in the sense that I find myself suddenly alone and without help, engaged in a world for which I bear the whole responsibility without being able, whatever I do, to tear myself away from this responsibility for an instant. are we eventually dealing with concepts and cognitive abilities that we did not create at the first place? - i guess yea, we are - and also, it is our genes and environment that are pushing us towards living this life, which minimizes our freedom, no? how dos that affect our psychological health/development?

Dear Hoda:

Does Sartre imply that he and others are invariably responsible for whatever may be projected on them?

There seem to be common misunderstandings throughout Western Civilization, regarding the meaning of the word, 'karma' (you are responsible for what you do); while Western Civilization generally practices Christianity, which is based - so the theology goes - on the tormentation and suffering of a man who was without any bad karma (sinless). Is not the story of Jesus exemplary of injustice imposed upon him by the 'bad karma' of others?

The summary of this reasoning is the proposal that (exceptions granted, where found) we are not generally responsible for what others do...

Lest we descend into rationalizing what is called 'victimology'; 'blaming the victim'.

Do you, Hoda, consider this response as cogent to and 'on topic' with your thread commencement?

Best regards to you and yours,
- RP

[N0B0DY]

I think we are only as responsible as we make ourselves. That a sinner or a saint is not responsible for who they are, and more importantly we are the ones who judge for ourselves who the sinners and saints are.

Can we really have a choice in who we are, if we have no other choice than to make the choices we make? If not, and this penetrates the subconscious mind to where guilt is held in the heart, then there is no need to be forgiven because we can forgive others and ourselves.

[mkirkpatrick]

I am personally responsible for all i think,say,and do,I am not responsible for what you say and do,although a parent may challenge that and say they are responsible for their child until it reaches an age whereby it then assumes that role.

We live under natural law,and if we align ourselves with it,then there is no real friction
in our lives,we are in tune-harmony with it,however if we are totally out of alignment
with natural laws then our lives will be misery and full of friction.


We have a choice though? Friction or harmony-you pays yer money and yer takes yer choice!



regards michael.

[N0B0DY]

I couldn't disagree with you more on this one, Michael. Did you really have a choice in what you wrote in message four, or whether or not you would respond?

[Fluent Piffle]

With increased awareness comes increased responsibility.


pif.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by N0B0DY I couldn't disagree with you more on this one, Michael. Did you really have a choice in what you wrote in message four, or whether or not you would respond?

I hear what you are saying here Nobody,and up to a point agree with you!However we
do make choices some more wisely than others leading to a realization of what is "really"
best for you,other than what you want-opting more for what you need!

I am responsible for me and my actions,however ones ego can "colour" the way you
choose! Agreed.



regards michael.