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06-06-2005, 03:22 PM
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Only lack of knowledge can pull like a BH but knowledge is like expansion of repulsive gravity.
Black is no knowledge and light is full of knowledge.
How do you know?
Humans have never been as near as the "event horizon" to a BH of knowledge, to experience what happens. Remember, extremes or opposites, are equal, thus, lack or wrong knowledge pulls as well as complete or correct knowledge should and does.

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A small seed sparks knowledge and set aflame the expansiveness of our human imagination and the beginning of the creative process for discovery. This might be the reason why a bright idea is always represented by the light bulb. And the lack of it is represented by the sign of the Riddler, "?" immersing into total darkness.

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10-08-2005, 09:52 PM
Smile Knowledge is knowing who you are?

Over the portals of all ancient Greek schools of education was written - Men know thyself, which is I think one of the most important things that anyone can ever know. I think it rather sad that many can go through there whole life and be very knowledgeable about all manner of things, but be completely ignorant of who they really are; where have they come from? Where are they going? And what is the purpose of their existence. When we know ourselves then other so called mysteries become a little easier to understand.

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10-30-2005, 07:34 AM
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Intelligence is the ability to garner knowledge.
Wisdom is the application (understanding) of that knowledge.

For the mathematicians W = [IK] ....... LOL
Wisdom will save your life.... nothing else will

An Ant has very little intelligence, and almost zero knowledge.... but he's driven to store food for the future. For him this wisdom has proven true for over 60 million years. We're very intelligent and knowledgeable.... what are our chances of survival for the next 56 million years.... and then ... we're as good as the Ants. Unfortunately for us Homo sapiens we have an inordinate amount of Intelligence & Knowledge but for some reason we never evolved a lot of Wisdom..... But then ... we're a very young species ... maybe the Ants didn't do so well in their first 4 million years either..... (LOL)

And if you say the Ant is driven by his DNA ... then which of us is free of it...??

Crush not yon Ant ... who stores the Golden Grain
He lives with pleasure, and will die in pain
Rather, from him, learn to secure the spoil
of patient care, and persevering toil......... (Saadi)

I know it’s not very scientific or TOE like ... but apt?

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Knowledge is the understanding of physical and psychological concepts in the environment. Knowledge is give-and-take because we learn it from things around us and we also apply it to things around us. It can also be defined as a seed of thought from which other ideas grow.
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Greg,
I posted before in this thread a quote of Sorcha Carey, with which I strongly agree. It is the following:
"We must never mix knowledge with wisdom. The first one is what serves us to gain our lifes. The second one is what helps us to live."
Do you agree or disagree with it? Why/why not?

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Smile knowledge is knowing that you know-you know!

Knowledge is simply knowing, that you know that you know, and when you are aware of that as a fact, then you are processed of knowledge, simple!
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Knowledge

Knowledge is a cognitive model of the environment, whether it is true or not. Much of historic knowledge has been found to be incomplete, or partially true, or true under certain exceptional circumstances.

Therefore, knowledge implies the existence of a cognitive model, nothing more, and nothing less.

Then you have to ask: do sea slugs that always swim towards light have knowledge? It is a form of preprogrammed knowledge that other sea slugs that have kept near the surface have propagated better than the other sea slugs. But can this really be counted as knowledge? It does not seem to have a "brain" per se - that it does not reflect on the nature of the light or itself, it merely follows its pattern.

But when we think about something, are we not really "trying out" the alternatives- that is to say, thinking is much like evolution, in that one examines possible alternatives, and then comes up with both: a model of the environment and of action, which will lead to the desired goal.

So, in this sense, is not thinking a form of evolution? And then is knowledge the "result of thinking", or in other words, the "extant species" in your brain?

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Knowledge is a cognitive model of the environment, whether it is true or not. Much of historic knowledge has been found to be incomplete, or partially true, or true under certain exceptional circumstances.

Therefore, knowledge implies the existence of a cognitive model, nothing more, nothing less.

Then you have to ask: does a sea slug that always swim towards light have knowledge? It is a form of preprogrammed knowledge- that other sea slugs that have kept near the surface have propagated better than the other sea slugs. But does this really count as knowledge? It does not seem to have a "brain" per se- that it is does not reflect on the nature of the light, or itself, it merely follows its pattern.

But when we think about something, are we not really "trying out" the alternatives- that is to say, thinking is much like evolution in that one examines possible alternatives, and then comes up with both a model of the environment and of action which will lead to the desired goal.

So in this sense, is not thinking a form of evolution, and knowledge then is the "result of thinking", or in other words, the "extant species" in your brain?
yes that is right,thinking is a form of evolution,and will expand without end.
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Knowledge is like the horizon, you can see it but the nearer you get to it, the farther it become.
I totally agree with that statement.
Antonio, I have already lost sight of the shore?

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