Re: Cultural Complexities Affecting Childhood Development
Graham the school year here in Ontario and specifically in Kingston ended in a large confrontational battle involving three quarters of the students being suspended from the last 5 weeks of school because a directed party from the Mental Health Assoc. made an appearance in the schools checking vaccination report updates. Some of these kids had been in school for nine and even ten years without report validation and suddenly they had strangely become CONTAGIOUS to fellow students and faculty. Some kids never completed year, missed important graduation ceremonies, end of year trips and cut away from peer group. Big chaos here involving media, parents and mental health and very confusing for both parents and children.
The last parent to drop by for personal educational purposes left here to eventually speak to four other parents who then contacted me for educational and self-help information.
Thank you for the offer of help...will certainly keep that in mind..
Re: Cultural Complexities Affecting Childhood Development
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Originally Posted by Mikal
Graham the school year here in Ontario and specifically in Kingston ended in a large confrontational battle involving three quarters of the students being suspended from the last 5 weeks of school because a directed party from the Mental Health Assoc. made an appearance in the schools checking vaccination report updates. Some of these kids had been in school for nine and even ten years without report validation and suddenly they had strangely become CONTAGIOUS to fellow students and faculty. Some kids never completed year, missed important graduation ceremonies, end of year trips and cut away from peer group. Big chaos here involving media, parents and mental health and very confusing for both parents and children.
The last parent to drop by for personal educational purposes left here to eventually speak to four other parents who then contacted me for educational and self-help information.
Thank you for the offer of help...will certainly keep that in mind..
Mikal
OH even better, now you have a target group for the pamphlet's, every car in the lot of the public health group, hospitals, 40000 votes for sure ... ahh thats there count that THEY do before action in your favor .. they have it down to a science ... call them child abusers, don't mince words Mikal .. this is mental and emotional abuse based on unsubstantiated fear tactic opinion with overtones of racism to curtail education needs by delay of subcultural groups in the system ..... bet the uninoctulated are from foreign source or just poor??? hmmm ~ g
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Graham...the really interesting thing here was that most students had their innoculation but had moved between cities with the innoculation documentation not being sent forward. This was a fine mix of subcultural groups and yes some economically disadvantaged families. Two of my parent group had their children suspended...they led the group confrontation between media, educational system and M.H...might I say they did a superb job and I admired their audacity in the meetings. As some kids never returned to finish school...there are plans to meet this beginning problem in September when the school year will begin again. Should be interesting...
Re: Cultural Complexities Affecting Childhood Development
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Originally Posted by melanie
Kids are messed up in the head today because of their initial upbringing.
The parents are to blame entirely, not society ....
It's a case of children bringing up children.
Children Used as accessories and mainly so the mother gets a free place to live and gets free money from the governments.
Girls deliberately getting pregnant so they don't have to go out to work.
It's a life style choice, isn't it.
Kids bringing up kids.....
Give the poor bastards back to god I say.
They are not our property.
In this post I am only trying to make an attempt to correct uncorrect assumptions about the issue being discussed in this thread:
"Kids are messed up in the head today because of their initial upbringing"
It is a sociological fact that a child becomes who they see themselves as because of relational social patterns shared with every person who touches their life, through every situation which touches their life and every social institution they pass through. It would be a truer statement to say that childen are messed up because a mental illness myth in society affects their early development and most children are experiencing mind altering drugs affecting important early childhood development.
"The parents are to blame not society"
Everything from family to educational experience hold responsibility to the vulnerability of the childhood passage and their natural state of immaturity with knowledge about life. It is plausible to believe that the natural inclination of parents is to love their own but it is not plausible to believe that the educational system filled with strangers with no emotional attachments to children have a natural inclination to love them. Families and society have a relational interface and connect, with one affecting the other. In a society that has deemed to its mental health trainees the statement "The family is no longer sacred." it is a statement that disadvantages the family rather than empowering the family.
"Its a case of children bringing up children"
There was a program created called "student welfare." Teens passing through the normal adolescent period of rebellion only had to accuse parents of abuse to opt into this program which gave them a place to party, take drugs and inevetibly get pregnant. Parents did not create that government program.
"Children used as assessories so the mother gets a free place to live and free money from the government."
This is most definitely the wrong reason to bring children into the world but is a possible happenstance in a demoralized society. I know disadvantaged families but have never heard of a free place to live and that free money would be a part and parcel of the natural social programs every society sets up for those unable to completely participate in society for numerous reasons.
"Girls deliberately getting pregnant so they don't have to work. Its a lifestyle choice isn't it"
Alot going on here. I was a CYW trained in the school system. I observed the special ed class for young mothers and young mothers to be. Strange things going on there. Parties celebrating the new births almost like encouragement to do this. Teacher approached councellors asking if condoms could be put away for abit because she needed 13 more pregnant students before June in order to qualify for funding for the next special ed class in the next years beginning semester. The picture looks one way...the real picture is not that way at all.
"Give the poor bastards back to God I say."
Absolutely no child on earth deserves to be called a "bastard". It might be that God gave them to us rather than we should give them back to God.
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Mel....it would be nice to realize that this is my thread and I would not have started it unless I had insight into the issues being discussed. I see no point in your post as it leaves the impression of judgement, derogatory remarks, personal insults and accusing statements concerning what you see as my supposed "deluded mind."
Intellectual discussion concerning social issues is never as you say "running people down" or gossip. It is discussion which attempts to clarify social issues and is problem-solving in nature!
Re: Cultural Complexities Affecting Childhood Development
Mikal, I value your personal knowledge in this area and others, plus, that is what most bring to ToeQuest to share. Mel is a consistent trouble maker to devalue your contributions, for this, I think, is just another embarrassment of herself: to stand against the posting of ideas from your learning. Only the deluded get mad when they are not agreed with. One would think that a policy of detachment, bliss, happiness, and whatnot from the One Being would bring more composure, but… no.
Mel seems to revel in the language of venom, insult, and nastiness, so I guess she is comfortable there and I suppose that some may eventually speak to her in that same language that she so condones and loves, for then what could she say?
Mel is probably just trolling here to agitate since she couldn't defend her own nastiness in another thread since it is there for all to see in the names she called you. The best she could come up with was to say that no one should comment on her abuses.
She, by her own admission, is a person who just doesn't care.
Re: Cultural Complexities Affecting Childhood Development
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Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com
Mikal, I value your personal knowledge in this area and others, plus, that is what most bring to ToeQuest to share. Mel is a consistent trouble maker to devalue your contributions, for this, I think, is just another embarrassment of herself: to stand against the posting of ideas from your learning. Only the deluded get mad when they are not agreed with. One would think that a policy of detachment, bliss, happiness, and whatnot from the One Being would bring more composure, but… no.
Mel seems to revel in the language of venom, insult, and nastiness, so I guess she is comfortable there and I suppose that some may eventually speak to her in that same language that she so condones and loves, for then what could she say?
Mel is probably just trolling here to agitate since she couldn't defend her own nastiness in another thread since it is there for all to see in the names she called you. The best she could come up with was to say that no one should comment on her abuses.
She, by her own admission, is a person who just doesn't care.
All venom, insults, tit for tats etc ...all ''arise'' in THIS
All inclusive awareness/beingness.
No-thing is excluded, including austin's foul mouth, and melanie's foul mouth.
There is no such thing as perfect delightful beingness,
sorry to disappoint you austin.
Can't have sweet without sour.
A Clash of personalities is just the chaos you don't like.
I'm sure Mikal can speak for herself here and defend herself.
SHE DOESN'T NEED YOU TO SPEAK FOR HER.....
Or do you wipe her arse for her too??
Please get over yourself...
You SAD ARROGANT YANKY WANKER
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Re: Cultural Complexities Affecting Childhood Development
Good example, Mel, for disruption and chaos in the forums is what Robert came out against and I agree and support him. Try dialoging the thread instead of:
"Boss Lady", "wipe arse", name calling etc. <— Return to sender!
Mikal replied fine to you. My post was my own opinion of your continuing antics.
Now you can say "It's not worth it" and not discuss thread content or get madder still if it dares to disagree with your TOE.
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