Social (mis)communication

[racecar]

Cute (your family might include a few of my relations as well ... the description seems to match )

I posted something here that might be related:

http://www.toequest.com/forum/metaph...tml#post127996



Thank you. That first link reminded me of some 26 dimensional theories http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosonic_string_theory ... but wouldn't you need 28 to include spaces and periods? LMAO!! Now how's that for an unreliable narrator? Can't even use punctuation correctly, with long run on words ... maybe a graduation from rider's guild to writer's guild could improve things some? Maybe not, hmmm ...

Have fun

What kind of rider's guild...barrel, dragon, storm, long? I must confess to being quite ignorant. At this point I'm not sure if it's the whole picture or the detail that's missing...I'll pick storm rider.

"Western alphabets have anywhere between 20 and 50 letters. Chinese writing does not have an alphabet, instead, it uses symbols, or Chinese characters (hanzi in Chinese, kanji in Japanese). These characters are based on a phonetic instead of a semantic system, that is, their primary function is to represent not sound but meaning. This is why their number is much larger than the number of letters in an alphabet."


(P2P...hmmmm)

[austintorn@aol.com]

(By the way; rainy weather today)

USES OF THE MOON

If there were no tides and tidal marshes
Filling and emptying, then what?
Would life have formed?

Isn’t the moon really a planet?
Yes, it’s orbit is everywhere concave to the sun
And is captured by the sun and not by the earth;
Together they are a double planet system
Whose center of gravity is still
Within the earth somewhere.

What about lunar cycles
And bio- or menstrual cycles,
Moon gods, honeymoons, romantic walks,
A base for space travel,
’To the moon, Alice’,
And lunatics?

The reading I referenced
Was making the hypothesis
That tides created by a Moon
Orbiting at 30,000 Km from Earth
Had been “critical” for violently mixing oceans.
(Tides were far more great with a
So near orbiting object)

This mixing, lasted for at least 1 billion years,
Eroded a large amount of material
From new born continents
And this material continuously
Mixed and mixed again

Was at the origin of the first life,
Half a billion years after Moon formation.

No Moon, no party ... at least no party for life.

If this would be true,
The Earth collision and Moon formation
Would be the main first engine of life
And the probability of such an astronomical event,
I think, is very low.

The coincidence of this low probability,
Combined with the “improbable hill” life climbed
In few billions of years,
With the Fermi paradox ... is well ... amazing.

If life is so improbable,
Compared to the number of possible stars,
So strictly related to an almost impossible “collision”,
No surprise we are not able to get any signal
From any nearby partner.

In the same reading I found the statement
That Earth’s rotational axes will start to oscillate
At that time and that may will end
With Earth rotational axes in the orbital plane.

But for these accidents,
Including the elimination of the dinosaurs
And the fusing of a ‘chimp’ chromosome,
We might not have been here ever,
But as we say there are
Many stars and planets.

Moon Children

The Earth would wobble like a dying top very soon,
Without the steadying influence of our lovely moon;
But, it’s slipping from our grasp an inch & a half a year.
The end’s not so near, but we’ll need a way out of here.

Yep. It is going away at a rate of 3.8 cm/sec
(Thanks to the Apollo mission for this data).
I’ve been reading that Moon will leave Earth orbit
When it will reach the average distance of 440,000 Km

So in about 1 billion year 40,000 Km/3.8 cm*year^-1
(current distance should be around 400,000 Km)
The Moon will feel more attraction
From Jupiter and will say goodbye to Earth.

[SteveA]

Yes, it's nice having the Moon as company as well, Austin. I agree and describe it lovely, though I've still got this question remaining:

Isn’t the moon really a planet?
Yes, it’s orbit is everywhere concave to the sun
And is captured by the sun and not by the earth;
Together they are a double planet system
Whose center of gravity is still
Within the earth somewhere.

I've heard you say this a few times, and I recognize that with various assumptions we can estimate the center of mass for the system, but those assumptions seem very questionable.

In order to measure the center of anything, we need some boundary for its components. If all that existed in the universe was just the Earth and the Moon, we could not specifically say that either orbited the other without some reference by which to measure this. If we used the Earth's rotation to say that the Moon orbitted the Earth, then the Moon would orbit around the "center" (yes, vaguely defined as we'd have to make assumptions about distributions of masses etc.) of the Earth and not be offset from that.

If we used the Moon as the reference, then the Earth should just be spinning but stationary in the sky as the Moon has no (significant, that I'm aware of, though it could be a very long period decaying wobble if we assume conventional physical laws and a non-spherical Moon) rotation relative to the Earth.

So what framework is being used to measure this off-center gravitational field?

[austintorn@aol.com]

Worldly Love

[SteveA]

Now there's a theory of everything I'm interested in exploring ... we've got a logical one without direction for the future. Time pressuring for some change and it appears the only stationary constellation on the horizon is that of value. Lots of places to explore, but it's hard to think that anything other than the best direction is worth actually heading towards.

Hmmm... an interesting idea - what if things could be lined up such that every direction was the best? Now that sounds like quite a challenge, potentially simple to do, though maybe impossible figure out ... then again, we've still got time - no rush We can take in the view and keep an eye open for any motions arising from an attractive field

[austintorn@aol.com]

Endless moon talk and tidal attraction… but now we must take a weather break…

Tropical storm 'Nicole' has brought me yet another week of summer and now some 1 million buckets of water, but it is still very hot even in the rain, so I guess I will go out in it; might even swim in the pool.

[SteveA]

Endless moon talk and tidal attraction… but now we must take a weather break…

Tropical storm 'Nicole' has brought me yet another week of summer and now some 1 million buckets of water, but it is still very hot even in the rain, so I guess I will go out in it; might even swim in the pool.

Excellent idea. Enjoy your swim, Austin.

http://www.toequest.com/forum/psycho...tml#post128254

I've got to head off to work ... have fun.

[austintorn@aol.com]

The Garden of Eden